1
00:00:32,170 --> 00:00:27,189
[Music]

2
00:00:35,450 --> 00:00:32,180
the smoke radio for the masses of July 8

3
00:00:37,850 --> 00:00:35,460
1947 the Army Air Forces has announced

4
00:00:43,930 --> 00:00:37,860
that a flying disc has been found and is

5
00:00:51,290 --> 00:00:47,630
I occasionally think how quickly our

6
00:00:53,750 --> 00:00:51,300
difference is worldwide would vanish if

7
00:00:55,130 --> 00:00:53,760
we were facing an alien threat from

8
00:00:56,940 --> 00:00:55,140
outside this work

9
00:00:57,130 --> 00:00:56,950
[Music]

10
00:01:00,470 --> 00:00:57,140
[Applause]

11
00:01:02,990 --> 00:01:00,480
[Music]

12
00:01:05,890 --> 00:01:03,000
Fade to Black with your host Jimmy

13
00:01:09,530 --> 00:01:05,900
Church on the game changer Radio Network

14
00:01:14,210 --> 00:01:09,540
[Music]

15
00:01:16,609 --> 00:01:14,220
all right good evening Fade to Black a

16
00:01:19,730 --> 00:01:16,619
very special Friday night presentation

17
00:01:22,670 --> 00:01:19,740
I'm your hostumi church and tonight we

18
00:01:24,410 --> 00:01:22,680
are celebrating Linda Moulton Howe and

19
00:01:29,810 --> 00:01:24,420
we are going to get straight to it today

20
00:01:31,310 --> 00:01:29,820
is Friday March 24th and uh Linda of

21
00:01:33,170 --> 00:01:31,320
course

22
00:01:37,969 --> 00:01:33,180
is Earth files

23
00:01:40,370 --> 00:01:37,979
she's been at this for five decades it's

24
00:01:43,630 --> 00:01:40,380
crazy but that's not what's most

25
00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:43,640
important what's most important is

26
00:01:48,530 --> 00:01:46,320
Linda has traveled to Venezuela Peru

27
00:01:50,149 --> 00:01:48,540
Brazil England Norway France Switzerland

28
00:01:52,730 --> 00:01:50,159
the Netherlands Yugoslavia turkey

29
00:01:55,850 --> 00:01:52,740
Ethiopia Kenya Egypt Australia Japan

30
00:01:59,330 --> 00:01:55,860
Canada Mexico the Yucatan and Puerto

31
00:02:02,090 --> 00:01:59,340
Rico for her research and Productions

32
00:02:03,590 --> 00:02:02,100
her website of course is earthfiles.com

33
00:02:05,209 --> 00:02:03,600
and I would like to welcome back to fade

34
00:02:07,609 --> 00:02:05,219
to black the one and only

35
00:02:10,669 --> 00:02:07,619
Linda Moulton Howe good evening young

36
00:02:13,729 --> 00:02:10,679
lady uh it's great to be back with you

37
00:02:16,130 --> 00:02:13,739
and hear all those countries that I have

38
00:02:20,809 --> 00:02:16,140
had such great times in

39
00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:20,819
yeah I I'm going to uh uh let me do this

40
00:02:24,410 --> 00:02:22,080
okay

41
00:02:26,510 --> 00:02:24,420
um Linda yeah are you going to add

42
00:02:29,210 --> 00:02:26,520
another country anytime soon

43
00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:29,220
well let's see

44
00:02:37,790 --> 00:02:32,879
um I may be going to England later this

45
00:02:39,710 --> 00:02:37,800
year and uh but we're still in that what

46
00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:39,720
do you call it that psychological thing

47
00:02:45,949 --> 00:02:42,480
we're traveling like we used to do so

48
00:02:48,770 --> 00:02:45,959
easily is not something that anybody is

49
00:02:51,710 --> 00:02:48,780
enthusiastic in the new world that we're

50
00:02:54,170 --> 00:02:51,720
in post-pandemic and so many problems

51
00:02:56,750 --> 00:02:54,180
when you travel well I'm thinking

52
00:02:59,990 --> 00:02:56,760
Antarctica I think you need to add

53
00:03:02,150 --> 00:03:00,000
Antarctica to the list well I have been

54
00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:02,160
there in a way when I did that

55
00:03:08,210 --> 00:03:04,560
documentary with Spartan one and Spartan

56
00:03:10,490 --> 00:03:08,220
two and they uh people are waving at me

57
00:03:13,490 --> 00:03:10,500
do you know that are they there with you

58
00:03:19,449 --> 00:03:13,500
yeah of course okay

59
00:03:22,550 --> 00:03:19,459
um and uh they were uh like a military

60
00:03:25,970 --> 00:03:22,560
insight into what we've heard rumors

61
00:03:30,530 --> 00:03:25,980
about that Antarctica two to three miles

62
00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:30,540
under beneath that big huge mound of ice

63
00:03:41,089 --> 00:03:36,239
is someone's very amazing three square

64
00:03:43,970 --> 00:03:41,099
acre rooms 80 foot ceilings thousands of

65
00:03:46,550 --> 00:03:43,980
various kinds of carvings like you would

66
00:03:50,990 --> 00:03:46,560
think of something between Mayan and

67
00:03:54,589 --> 00:03:51,000
Egyptian all in black rock and when I

68
00:03:55,850 --> 00:03:54,599
was filming with them and working with

69
00:04:00,470 --> 00:03:55,860
them

70
00:04:03,470 --> 00:04:00,480
we brought up a question that started uh

71
00:04:06,350 --> 00:04:03,480
all the way back in 2017 I was working

72
00:04:09,949 --> 00:04:06,360
with them on Sparta Spartan one and two

73
00:04:13,390 --> 00:04:09,959
in 2018 so the year before in 2017.

74
00:04:18,349 --> 00:04:13,400
I did at earthfiles.com

75
00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:18,359
amuamua Comet asteroid other changing

76
00:04:23,150 --> 00:04:20,400
speed and course

77
00:04:25,670 --> 00:04:23,160
and when I the next year when I'm

78
00:04:28,610 --> 00:04:25,680
working with Spartan one and two they

79
00:04:31,249 --> 00:04:28,620
tell me that they know that it was

80
00:04:34,010 --> 00:04:31,259
identified by what we would consider to

81
00:04:35,210 --> 00:04:34,020
be Military Intelligence in the United

82
00:04:36,650 --> 00:04:35,220
States

83
00:04:41,749 --> 00:04:36,660
as

84
00:04:44,930 --> 00:04:41,759
an alien technology like a craft okay so

85
00:04:46,129 --> 00:04:44,940
that's 2018 working with Spartan one and

86
00:04:49,010 --> 00:04:46,139
two

87
00:04:53,570 --> 00:04:49,020
in 2019

88
00:04:55,909 --> 00:04:53,580
it was Professor Avi Loeb at Harvard who

89
00:04:58,969 --> 00:04:55,919
at the time was the director of the

90
00:05:01,070 --> 00:04:58,979
astronomy department at Harvard the

91
00:05:02,749 --> 00:05:01,080
longest serving director of the

92
00:05:06,650 --> 00:05:02,759
astronomy Department

93
00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:06,660
and he put forth for the first time a

94
00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:12,240
hypothesis that this was an example of

95
00:05:20,689 --> 00:05:16,560
some kind of let's say discarded alien

96
00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:20,699
technology that had made its way into

97
00:05:26,930 --> 00:05:24,000
our or near our solar system and that

98
00:05:29,689 --> 00:05:26,940
one of the astounding things about it

99
00:05:33,850 --> 00:05:29,699
which provoked that is and I'm quoting

100
00:05:38,450 --> 00:05:33,860
from my own Earth files report back in

101
00:05:39,950 --> 00:05:38,460
2017 and 2018 when this uh came through

102
00:05:42,890 --> 00:05:39,960
quote

103
00:05:44,390 --> 00:05:42,900
it was pulled by the Sun's gravity

104
00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:44,400
apparently

105
00:05:51,770 --> 00:05:48,320
because the object made a hairpin turn

106
00:05:56,270 --> 00:05:51,780
under our solar system passing under

107
00:05:59,629 --> 00:05:56,280
Earth's orbit on October 14 2017 at a

108
00:06:02,749 --> 00:05:59,639
distance of about 15 million miles and

109
00:06:04,249 --> 00:06:02,759
about 60 times the distance of we were

110
00:06:07,010 --> 00:06:04,259
standing on the earth looking at the

111
00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:07,020
moon it was 60 times further away

112
00:06:14,150 --> 00:06:10,400
and then this object

113
00:06:18,290 --> 00:06:14,160
shot back up above the plane of our

114
00:06:21,370 --> 00:06:18,300
solar system planets and its speed Jimmy

115
00:06:26,450 --> 00:06:21,380
the speed of a muamua at this point

116
00:06:30,110 --> 00:06:26,460
begins increasing up to 97 200 miles an

117
00:06:32,990 --> 00:06:30,120
hour that's 27 miles a second

118
00:06:35,390 --> 00:06:33,000
and that was in respect to the distance

119
00:06:38,990 --> 00:06:35,400
it was traveling from our sun

120
00:06:42,110 --> 00:06:39,000
and it left our solar system still

121
00:06:46,730 --> 00:06:42,120
speeding toward the constellation pagasa

122
00:06:50,210 --> 00:06:46,740
Pegasus but there was no identifiable

123
00:06:52,490 --> 00:06:50,220
reason from scientists about why it

124
00:06:55,610 --> 00:06:52,500
would have started increasing so much

125
00:06:58,189 --> 00:06:55,620
there became science arguments about

126
00:07:01,249 --> 00:06:58,199
whether what was it made of uh could

127
00:07:03,469 --> 00:07:01,259
this have been evaporating gases and

128
00:07:07,809 --> 00:07:03,479
there was no evidence of any of that no

129
00:07:10,550 --> 00:07:07,819
that's right and uh but Linda

130
00:07:13,150 --> 00:07:10,560
for me one of the crucial there's like

131
00:07:16,490 --> 00:07:13,160
20 different uh amazing things about

132
00:07:20,689 --> 00:07:16,500
amawa but it went

133
00:07:23,390 --> 00:07:20,699
and and increase speed to over 250 000

134
00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:23,400
miles per hour well the last figure that

135
00:07:28,790 --> 00:07:25,680
I had is the one I quoted ninety seven

136
00:07:32,170 --> 00:07:28,800
thousand two hundred yeah whichever they

137
00:07:35,629 --> 00:07:32,180
decided was correct it was a speed

138
00:07:38,990 --> 00:07:35,639
increasing without explanation in terms

139
00:07:40,490 --> 00:07:39,000
of gravity gravity yeah what I'm saying

140
00:07:41,749 --> 00:07:40,500
what I'm saying Linda I don't want to

141
00:07:43,189 --> 00:07:41,759
interrupt you on the night that we're

142
00:07:44,210 --> 00:07:43,199
celebrating you but I'm gonna do it

143
00:07:47,050 --> 00:07:44,220
anyway

144
00:07:50,089 --> 00:07:47,060
um no yeah you you're correct except

145
00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:50,099
it accelerated and accelerated and

146
00:07:55,430 --> 00:07:53,520
accelerated and after 11 days uh when it

147
00:07:59,150 --> 00:07:55,440
was you know virtually out of sight and

148
00:08:01,189 --> 00:07:59,160
that was it it was uh over 250

149
00:08:04,490 --> 00:08:01,199
000 miles per hour without gravity

150
00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:04,500
assist and you just just stop right

151
00:08:09,409 --> 00:08:07,919
there and go uh somebody just explained

152
00:08:11,870 --> 00:08:09,419
this to me like I'm a five-year-old

153
00:08:16,490 --> 00:08:11,880
because this this doesn't make any sense

154
00:08:19,249 --> 00:08:16,500
yeah and then within a few months it was

155
00:08:22,129 --> 00:08:19,259
Professor Avi Loeb at Harvard who

156
00:08:25,210 --> 00:08:22,139
hypothesized and it was published that

157
00:08:29,450 --> 00:08:25,220
this was in fact an artificial

158
00:08:32,750 --> 00:08:29,460
intelligence that this was some kind of

159
00:08:35,930 --> 00:08:32,760
craft and for the whole last year and a

160
00:08:39,290 --> 00:08:35,940
half or so maybe two years there's been

161
00:08:41,269 --> 00:08:39,300
a lot of uh argument about whether or

162
00:08:43,310 --> 00:08:41,279
not it could actually have been

163
00:08:46,610 --> 00:08:43,320
something that was structured it would

164
00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:46,620
be the first known other intelligence

165
00:08:54,710 --> 00:08:50,880
created object identified if it came to

166
00:08:57,470 --> 00:08:54,720
that but recently just in the last

167
00:09:00,769 --> 00:08:57,480
couple of days there has been a counter

168
00:09:06,050 --> 00:09:00,779
presentation by scientists who are

169
00:09:08,630 --> 00:09:06,060
arguing that it is a natural increase in

170
00:09:12,170 --> 00:09:08,640
speed from what they are hypothesizing

171
00:09:16,070 --> 00:09:12,180
not proving but hypothesizing various

172
00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:16,080
kinds of gases that increased as and

173
00:09:21,889 --> 00:09:18,800
then kept kept increasing so we now have

174
00:09:24,769 --> 00:09:21,899
this argument again between scientists

175
00:09:26,410 --> 00:09:24,779
about what a muamua could have been yeah

176
00:09:29,990 --> 00:09:26,420
yeah

177
00:09:33,829 --> 00:09:30,000
but it leads to this issue of that

178
00:09:36,590 --> 00:09:33,839
around us more and more in so many

179
00:09:39,490 --> 00:09:36,600
directions in many countries there are

180
00:09:42,710 --> 00:09:39,500
now more and more papers and discussions

181
00:09:45,949 --> 00:09:42,720
among scientists than ever before about

182
00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:45,959
whether or not there are signs evidence

183
00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:49,200
physical traces of other intelligences

184
00:09:55,610 --> 00:09:52,080
that if we were looking with open

185
00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:55,620
scientific mind into the solar system

186
00:10:01,550 --> 00:09:59,279
around us that we might find more that's

187
00:10:05,329 --> 00:10:01,560
what Avi Loeb would like us to be

188
00:10:07,670 --> 00:10:05,339
looking for well I was uh in my Earth

189
00:10:11,630 --> 00:10:07,680
Files YouTube channel I was talking

190
00:10:15,410 --> 00:10:11,640
about this facet and some others and I

191
00:10:19,009 --> 00:10:15,420
got an email that came from a man who

192
00:10:22,250 --> 00:10:19,019
today is 60 four years old retired

193
00:10:27,410 --> 00:10:22,260
but he had served in the United States

194
00:10:30,829 --> 00:10:27,420
Air Force and was at upper Hayford which

195
00:10:35,690 --> 00:10:30,839
is very close to Oxford in England and

196
00:10:38,930 --> 00:10:35,700
about 137 miles to the west of RAF bent

197
00:10:41,389 --> 00:10:38,940
Waters and raf-bentwaters is on the east

198
00:10:44,449 --> 00:10:41,399
coast of England very close to the ocean

199
00:10:48,110 --> 00:10:44,459
and in between that was the distance

200
00:10:50,449 --> 00:10:48,120
between upper Hayford and bentwaters and

201
00:10:52,810 --> 00:10:50,459
why is this important

202
00:10:57,530 --> 00:10:52,820
this is one of the more amazing

203
00:11:00,410 --> 00:10:57,540
eyewitness military stories that I think

204
00:11:02,509 --> 00:11:00,420
has ever come with so many pieces that

205
00:11:04,370 --> 00:11:02,519
begin to fit together and you see a

206
00:11:08,269 --> 00:11:04,380
bigger picture than you ever saw of the

207
00:11:13,190 --> 00:11:08,279
last 30 or 40 years in my case and he

208
00:11:16,370 --> 00:11:13,200
sends me this email and we have a a safe

209
00:11:19,030 --> 00:11:16,380
way to communicate and I interview him

210
00:11:21,490 --> 00:11:19,040
for a very long time and

211
00:11:27,410 --> 00:11:21,500
on December

212
00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:27,420
26th 27th 28 1980. those three dates

213
00:11:35,509 --> 00:11:31,760
have been reported since about

214
00:11:39,889 --> 00:11:35,519
1983-82 when one of the uh I think it's

215
00:11:44,690 --> 00:11:39,899
uh the world news uh in London

216
00:11:48,110 --> 00:11:44,700
did a report about strange lights in the

217
00:11:49,550 --> 00:11:48,120
wendlesham forest near RAF bentwaters

218
00:11:51,949 --> 00:11:49,560
Woodbridge

219
00:11:55,730 --> 00:11:51,959
and that there had been multiple

220
00:11:58,670 --> 00:11:55,740
eyewitnesses and that is the story that

221
00:12:01,490 --> 00:11:58,680
for going all the way back to uh

222
00:12:04,370 --> 00:12:01,500
somewhere in the 80s I met John

223
00:12:07,490 --> 00:12:04,380
Burroughs began helping him find people

224
00:12:10,069 --> 00:12:07,500
to do hypnosis these many decades later

225
00:12:13,490 --> 00:12:10,079
we have heard from dozens and dozens and

226
00:12:15,710 --> 00:12:13,500
dozens of U.S Air Force people who were

227
00:12:20,569 --> 00:12:15,720
at Raf bent Waters the Knights of

228
00:12:23,030 --> 00:12:20,579
December 26 27th and 28th Colonel halt

229
00:12:26,329 --> 00:12:23,040
Charles halt who is Deputy base

230
00:12:28,370 --> 00:12:26,339
commander on the night of the 28th was

231
00:12:30,650 --> 00:12:28,380
even out there when a beam came down

232
00:12:34,370 --> 00:12:30,660
from a light and hit the ground three

233
00:12:37,430 --> 00:12:34,380
feet from his shoe and

234
00:12:39,949 --> 00:12:37,440
those three nights haunted John

235
00:12:44,509 --> 00:12:39,959
Burroughs I've known John now for a few

236
00:12:47,389 --> 00:12:44,519
decades and the thing about it is that

237
00:12:49,970 --> 00:12:47,399
he had pieces that he could remember but

238
00:12:53,150 --> 00:12:49,980
when we would do hypnosis trying to find

239
00:12:56,389 --> 00:12:53,160
out what exactly happened to him on the

240
00:13:00,710 --> 00:12:56,399
night of the 26th that's 27th the 28th

241
00:13:03,170 --> 00:13:00,720
there were these gaps except that on the

242
00:13:05,329 --> 00:13:03,180
third night the 28th

243
00:13:08,509 --> 00:13:05,339
it wasn't just John Burroughs and Jim

244
00:13:10,970 --> 00:13:08,519
pennison it was Colonel Charles Halt and

245
00:13:13,850 --> 00:13:10,980
12 of 14 men and they were all out in

246
00:13:16,250 --> 00:13:13,860
the forest all of them and they all were

247
00:13:19,009 --> 00:13:16,260
watching beams coming down from lights

248
00:13:22,250 --> 00:13:19,019
in the sky all of them and they were

249
00:13:25,850 --> 00:13:22,260
talking with each other and Colonel halt

250
00:13:27,889 --> 00:13:25,860
was recording all of the uh what he was

251
00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:27,899
saying and what they were saying

252
00:13:33,350 --> 00:13:29,519
and then

253
00:13:35,150 --> 00:13:33,360
John Burroughs and a sergeant Adrian

254
00:13:38,930 --> 00:13:35,160
bestenza

255
00:13:41,269 --> 00:13:38,940
John sees a light as they all see a

256
00:13:42,650 --> 00:13:41,279
light that seems to be somewhere close

257
00:13:45,650 --> 00:13:42,660
to the ground

258
00:13:49,009 --> 00:13:45,660
and John as if drawn there starts

259
00:13:51,949 --> 00:13:49,019
walking Adrian bastenza was assigned by

260
00:13:54,650 --> 00:13:51,959
Hall to stay with John comes running up

261
00:13:57,889 --> 00:13:54,660
next to Burrows John is getting closer

262
00:14:02,569 --> 00:13:57,899
and closer to this strange light that is

263
00:14:08,930 --> 00:14:05,329
and the thing that Adrian bestenza told

264
00:14:11,210 --> 00:14:08,940
me that he saw right next to and

265
00:14:13,190 --> 00:14:11,220
slightly behind John

266
00:14:16,850 --> 00:14:13,200
he said light

267
00:14:20,629 --> 00:14:16,860
it was light Linda it was like John was

268
00:14:23,389 --> 00:14:20,639
going into light perhaps a beam pulling

269
00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:23,399
him up right at that moment and then

270
00:14:28,970 --> 00:14:26,399
Adrian said and something Linda

271
00:14:31,009 --> 00:14:28,980
something like took hold of me nobody

272
00:14:33,949 --> 00:14:31,019
was around me but something took hold of

273
00:14:36,170 --> 00:14:33,959
me and pushed me to the ground and as I

274
00:14:38,810 --> 00:14:36,180
went down to the ground by whatever is

275
00:14:42,350 --> 00:14:38,820
pushing me I looked up again and John

276
00:14:43,490 --> 00:14:42,360
was up in the air in the light okay so

277
00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:43,500
now

278
00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:47,940
that's a very fast summary of just a

279
00:14:54,170 --> 00:14:50,100
couple of facets that happened at Raf

280
00:14:56,889 --> 00:14:54,180
bat Waters December 26th 27th and 28th

281
00:14:59,870 --> 00:14:56,899
and and yes

282
00:15:01,550 --> 00:14:59,880
in this email that's come to me that's

283
00:15:03,250 --> 00:15:01,560
what I was gonna I would just want to

284
00:15:08,689 --> 00:15:03,260
clarify for the audience

285
00:15:12,650 --> 00:15:08,699
so the events uh at Woodbridge uh slash

286
00:15:17,449 --> 00:15:12,660
bentwater slash rentals Jim Forest those

287
00:15:19,310 --> 00:15:17,459
dates 27 28 29 1980. uh we've got uh uh

288
00:15:21,650 --> 00:15:19,320
the Christmas parties going on we've got

289
00:15:23,870 --> 00:15:21,660
a New Year's Eve party going on Colonel

290
00:15:26,210 --> 00:15:23,880
halts attending that the lights return

291
00:15:28,910 --> 00:15:26,220
he gets pulled out he gets thrown into

292
00:15:32,870 --> 00:15:28,920
the force and everything just breaks

293
00:15:36,710 --> 00:15:32,880
loose for a third night but that was on

294
00:15:40,670 --> 00:15:36,720
the coast you just yes East Coast you

295
00:15:45,889 --> 00:15:40,680
just got an email uh from a location

296
00:15:49,430 --> 00:15:45,899
about 150 miles to the West 137 miles

297
00:15:52,490 --> 00:15:49,440
100 you're so you're so precise I don't

298
00:15:55,009 --> 00:15:52,500
even know it has to be you have to be as

299
00:15:57,829 --> 00:15:55,019
precise as you can possibly be when you

300
00:15:59,629 --> 00:15:57,839
are covering these kinds of subjects I I

301
00:16:03,110 --> 00:15:59,639
think it's I think it's that Christmas

302
00:16:05,389 --> 00:16:03,120
sweater that you're wearing

303
00:16:08,449 --> 00:16:05,399
I've been on all day here in the quirky

304
00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:08,459
it fine-tuned your frontal lobe okay so

305
00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:11,279
now you get this email two two three

306
00:16:17,629 --> 00:16:14,940
days ago uh what happened well further a

307
00:16:20,449 --> 00:16:17,639
couple of weeks ago and I was able to

308
00:16:23,530 --> 00:16:20,459
talk with this individual at great great

309
00:16:27,970 --> 00:16:23,540
length and record him

310
00:16:31,910 --> 00:16:27,980
on the middle night at Raf batwaters

311
00:16:33,350 --> 00:16:31,920
unbeknownst to anybody there at the time

312
00:16:37,850 --> 00:16:33,360
apparently

313
00:16:40,850 --> 00:16:37,860
and then over to the West 137 miles to

314
00:16:44,090 --> 00:16:40,860
Upper Hayford that is also an American

315
00:16:46,069 --> 00:16:44,100
base but the in the United States and

316
00:16:49,730 --> 00:16:46,079
England and the way they would describe

317
00:16:53,090 --> 00:16:49,740
it that's RAF Royal Air Force it's

318
00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:53,100
American but they go by RAF upper

319
00:17:01,850 --> 00:16:56,480
Hayford RAF batwaters

320
00:17:04,189 --> 00:17:01,860
RAF crowden is just a few miles north of

321
00:17:08,090 --> 00:17:04,199
upper Hayford and it is a radar base

322
00:17:09,890 --> 00:17:08,100
that is what it excels in

323
00:17:13,250 --> 00:17:09,900
and I now

324
00:17:16,429 --> 00:17:13,260
have a man who is talking to me

325
00:17:18,770 --> 00:17:16,439
being from the United States based at

326
00:17:22,669 --> 00:17:18,780
Raf upper Hayford

327
00:17:23,569 --> 00:17:22,679
who starts unfolding how he gets an

328
00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:23,579
order

329
00:17:30,490 --> 00:17:26,160
to go out to one of the weapon storage

330
00:17:34,250 --> 00:17:30,500
areas at upper Hayford in order to move

331
00:17:35,450 --> 00:17:34,260
bombs to protect them and nobody tells

332
00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:35,460
him why

333
00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:38,880
he gets to the weapon storage area and

334
00:17:46,370 --> 00:17:42,799
it is the night of December

335
00:17:52,310 --> 00:17:46,380
27th 1980

336
00:17:56,930 --> 00:17:52,320
at approximately on the dot 1 a.m so

337
00:18:00,350 --> 00:17:56,940
over in bentwaters on that middle night

338
00:18:03,830 --> 00:18:00,360
they're out people are out in the forest

339
00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:03,840
and it's the clock goes past midnight so

340
00:18:08,690 --> 00:18:07,679
you've gone from 26 to the 27th and that

341
00:18:12,350 --> 00:18:08,700
is

342
00:18:14,770 --> 00:18:12,360
the two RAF bases

343
00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:14,780
don't know it but they are both

344
00:18:21,049 --> 00:18:18,960
experiencing very strange highly strange

345
00:18:23,930 --> 00:18:21,059
UFO phenomena

346
00:18:27,470 --> 00:18:23,940
and in Upper Hayford

347
00:18:30,110 --> 00:18:27,480
I'll call the uh the person that I'm

348
00:18:34,909 --> 00:18:30,120
protecting to share his story

349
00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:34,919
that I call him uh Smith Jones and he at

350
00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:37,260
that time was a senior Airman he would

351
00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:39,600
eventually after 20 years retire from

352
00:18:45,890 --> 00:18:42,240
the Air Force as a staff sergeant

353
00:18:49,430 --> 00:18:45,900
and he gets to where he is to do the

354
00:18:51,830 --> 00:18:49,440
bombs they have trailers he's starting

355
00:18:54,110 --> 00:18:51,840
to do work he is

356
00:18:57,529 --> 00:18:54,120
um on what is called a it's a little

357
00:18:59,990 --> 00:18:57,539
Hill at upper Hayford and when you are

358
00:19:02,690 --> 00:19:00,000
at the flight line and this little Hill

359
00:19:04,909 --> 00:19:02,700
here where some of the bombs and

360
00:19:08,750 --> 00:19:04,919
tunneling equipment are

361
00:19:12,590 --> 00:19:08,760
it has a slope like this and

362
00:19:15,049 --> 00:19:12,600
he is looking down on another part of

363
00:19:18,409 --> 00:19:15,059
what would be the flight line from where

364
00:19:21,289 --> 00:19:18,419
he begins trying to organize how he's

365
00:19:23,810 --> 00:19:21,299
going to protect these bombs and he has

366
00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:23,820
not a clue what's happening that he

367
00:19:27,650 --> 00:19:25,679
doesn't see anything he doesn't know why

368
00:19:29,090 --> 00:19:27,660
he's there

369
00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:29,100
he's

370
00:19:34,490 --> 00:19:33,120
getting a phone call back saying he

371
00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:34,500
needs help

372
00:19:39,049 --> 00:19:36,960
he needs somebody to come from security

373
00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:39,059
to help

374
00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:41,280
he's made that call

375
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:44,640
he turns around he's up on that little

376
00:19:52,430 --> 00:19:48,240
Hill he turns around just to look down

377
00:19:53,870 --> 00:19:52,440
at this other section of the Airfield

378
00:19:57,289 --> 00:19:53,880
and there

379
00:19:59,690 --> 00:19:57,299
it astounded him struck him it was like

380
00:20:02,810 --> 00:19:59,700
he was hit with something like lightning

381
00:20:06,650 --> 00:20:02,820
he couldn't believe it 60 to 80 feet

382
00:20:10,669 --> 00:20:06,660
long 30 to 40 maybe 50 feet wide the

383
00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:10,679
shape of a triangle and it is just like

384
00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:14,640
this in the air below him he can only

385
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:18,000
see the top of it it is below him and he

386
00:20:24,289 --> 00:20:21,120
said I do not know how anything that

387
00:20:29,090 --> 00:20:24,299
large how can it creep up there was no

388
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:29,100
sound no sound at all it's just there

389
00:20:34,250 --> 00:20:33,120
and what unfolded over the next few

390
00:20:37,669 --> 00:20:34,260
hours

391
00:20:40,190 --> 00:20:37,679
he makes another phone call he's trying

392
00:20:42,650 --> 00:20:40,200
to get security help he doesn't know

393
00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:42,660
what this is he doesn't know why they

394
00:20:50,570 --> 00:20:46,080
are moving bombs the whole thing is uh

395
00:20:51,529 --> 00:20:50,580
has him stunned and eventually two more

396
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:51,539
men

397
00:20:56,810 --> 00:20:53,039
show up

398
00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:56,820
and they go down the hill

399
00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:59,039
and when they get down a little lower

400
00:21:04,909 --> 00:21:01,679
they're now looking up under the belly

401
00:21:06,409 --> 00:21:04,919
of this huge triangular craft that

402
00:21:08,450 --> 00:21:06,419
appears to be

403
00:21:11,150 --> 00:21:08,460
all black

404
00:21:15,950 --> 00:21:11,160
but in the what we'll call the front

405
00:21:19,490 --> 00:21:15,960
when they could see it were two 10 foot

406
00:21:23,450 --> 00:21:19,500
by five foot windows

407
00:21:26,330 --> 00:21:23,460
so here's a 10 by 5 here's a ten by five

408
00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:26,340
they can't see anybody they don't see

409
00:21:31,310 --> 00:21:28,799
any moving lights they don't see

410
00:21:34,610 --> 00:21:31,320
anything functioning except

411
00:21:38,690 --> 00:21:34,620
Pure White daylight appears to be coming

412
00:21:42,289 --> 00:21:38,700
up from the floor it is directional as

413
00:21:45,950 --> 00:21:42,299
he said to me and that the light was

414
00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:45,960
making the windows look white but that

415
00:21:53,210 --> 00:21:49,919
was it there was nothing else until

416
00:21:56,750 --> 00:21:53,220
the three of them get down below and

417
00:21:58,909 --> 00:21:56,760
then he did drawings and apologized for

418
00:22:01,930 --> 00:21:58,919
not being an artist but the point here

419
00:22:06,049 --> 00:22:01,940
is what he saw I've never heard before

420
00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:06,059
or since he had never heard before or

421
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:07,200
since

422
00:22:15,049 --> 00:22:11,760
there were 19 half Moons

423
00:22:20,930 --> 00:22:15,059
do do like a thinking of pie and cut it

424
00:22:22,669 --> 00:22:20,940
in half and 19 halves are placed a line

425
00:22:30,770 --> 00:22:22,679
of seven

426
00:22:34,190 --> 00:22:30,780
would be the back five in between

427
00:22:37,549 --> 00:22:34,200
so there's a total of 19 and he said

428
00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:37,559
it he had never seen anything like it

429
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:40,740
but he tried to compare it to what would

430
00:22:47,930 --> 00:22:44,400
make us see what he was seeing inside of

431
00:22:52,149 --> 00:22:47,940
these small uh we'll call them he called

432
00:22:55,310 --> 00:22:52,159
them glass orbs he said you know what a

433
00:22:57,649 --> 00:22:55,320
electrostatic electricity looks like or

434
00:23:00,909 --> 00:22:57,659
maybe like lightning and if you could

435
00:23:03,649 --> 00:23:00,919
capture lightning that was red green

436
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:03,659
yellow blue

437
00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:06,000
and a little orange and he said if you

438
00:23:10,810 --> 00:23:08,100
could capture and you're seeing like

439
00:23:14,029 --> 00:23:10,820
lightning inside of these half Moons

440
00:23:16,730 --> 00:23:14,039
that's what it was like

441
00:23:18,590 --> 00:23:16,740
and then

442
00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:18,600
the

443
00:23:22,610 --> 00:23:20,700
more crews

444
00:23:26,090 --> 00:23:22,620
are coming

445
00:23:30,230 --> 00:23:26,100
they are getting orders that they are

446
00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:30,240
they've got to close this up and they

447
00:23:37,850 --> 00:23:33,840
start doing their work and this thing is

448
00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:37,860
right there is still silent silent and

449
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:40,799
they get doors closed with the bombs

450
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:43,440
moved they get the work done without

451
00:23:50,450 --> 00:23:46,799
still not anybody talking to them about

452
00:23:52,370 --> 00:23:50,460
what is going on and what is this thing

453
00:23:55,310 --> 00:23:52,380
this big thing in the air

454
00:23:58,190 --> 00:23:55,320
and the three he and two of the men

455
00:24:00,649 --> 00:23:58,200
go back down to a position where they're

456
00:24:02,930 --> 00:24:00,659
underneath they're waiting for a

457
00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:02,940
transport to come and get them

458
00:24:08,570 --> 00:24:06,240
and as they sat there he said suddenly

459
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:08,580
not one sound

460
00:24:18,110 --> 00:24:16,799
thing with the 19 lightning glass orbs

461
00:24:21,169 --> 00:24:18,120
on the bottom

462
00:24:24,289 --> 00:24:21,179
that it began to turn and he said it

463
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:24,299
started to turn so slowly that they both

464
00:24:30,110 --> 00:24:27,120
all three of them said how can it be so

465
00:24:33,169 --> 00:24:30,120
big and turn so slowly and we not hear

466
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:33,179
anything and he said as it kept turning

467
00:24:39,470 --> 00:24:36,240
it was almost like

468
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:39,480
this is what we can do

469
00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:42,720
and there's nothing you can do about it

470
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:44,940
and he said it actually had that feeling

471
00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:48,000
in all three men said my God it's like

472
00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:53,039
telling us in the slow sort of almost uh

473
00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:55,919
we have nothing to be afraid of we have

474
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:58,740
nothing to hurry for and then the when

475
00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:01,200
the craft had turned

476
00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:03,840
it just

477
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,520
disappeared

478
00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:07,679
okay now

479
00:25:12,770 --> 00:25:11,220
he gets finally he gets back

480
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:12,780
and

481
00:25:31,070 --> 00:25:26,400
superior officer said

482
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,080
you are to keep your mouth shut for the

483
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:33,360
rest of your life

484
00:25:40,850 --> 00:25:37,440
or we will make sure that everything in

485
00:25:43,970 --> 00:25:40,860
your career is pulled and you will have

486
00:25:47,690 --> 00:25:43,980
nothing and that those are literal words

487
00:25:50,510 --> 00:25:47,700
said to him and he by that point like so

488
00:25:53,330 --> 00:25:50,520
many people have experienced this some

489
00:25:55,610 --> 00:25:53,340
dramatic thing with a UFO and then

490
00:25:57,890 --> 00:25:55,620
somebody of higher rank comes and says

491
00:26:00,289 --> 00:25:57,900
that you keep your mouth shut or

492
00:26:01,310 --> 00:26:00,299
all kinds of punishing is going to

493
00:26:02,570 --> 00:26:01,320
happen

494
00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:02,580
and

495
00:26:06,289 --> 00:26:04,440
he said from

496
00:26:09,409 --> 00:26:06,299
that moment on

497
00:26:12,590 --> 00:26:09,419
until the sun came up

498
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:12,600
he had no idea what was happening but he

499
00:26:17,330 --> 00:26:15,840
finally had the ability to talk to some

500
00:26:19,850 --> 00:26:17,340
people who are coming in on the new

501
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:19,860
shift before he would go back to his

502
00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:22,080
place and he said

503
00:26:27,230 --> 00:26:24,720
these guys came in and they said hey did

504
00:26:30,590 --> 00:26:27,240
you hear about the UFO last night he

505
00:26:32,810 --> 00:26:30,600
said hear about it I was there I was

506
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:32,820
underneath it and they said well did you

507
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:36,240
hear it went up to Croton that was RAF

508
00:26:43,630 --> 00:26:39,600
Croton nearby a little bit further north

509
00:26:48,350 --> 00:26:43,640
and then they've reported it at Raf

510
00:26:51,649 --> 00:26:48,360
bentwaters same craft

511
00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:51,659
brand new information yeah and and and

512
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:53,340
here's the thing

513
00:27:02,510 --> 00:26:59,279
all right December 29th right 1980

514
00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:02,520
um now we have uh you know upper a

515
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:05,279
Hayford and upper Hayford is right in

516
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:06,720
the middle of the United Kingdom too

517
00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:09,600
it's it's just a little north of Oxford

518
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:11,640
yeah yeah it's it's it's it's right in

519
00:27:15,950 --> 00:27:13,200
the center there

520
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:15,960
um we've got uh bent Waters rendlesham

521
00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:17,760
and then over here in the United States

522
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:21,480
we had cash Landrum and that was also on

523
00:27:25,850 --> 00:27:24,720
December 29th 1980. that's right and I

524
00:27:28,970 --> 00:27:25,860
said to him

525
00:27:32,090 --> 00:27:28,980
what in the world do you suppose was

526
00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:32,100
happening the 27th that what would be

527
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:35,580
starting up to midnight on the 26th then

528
00:27:40,190 --> 00:27:37,679
you go past midnight and you're into the

529
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:40,200
27th right you go through the 27th to

530
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:43,679
midnight to the 28th and then that third

531
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:47,039
night the 28th went into the 29th what

532
00:27:54,169 --> 00:27:50,880
was happening that so many places would

533
00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:54,179
have had and this is important

534
00:27:59,029 --> 00:27:56,640
they all said it had to be something

535
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:59,039
like a UFO because they had never seen

536
00:28:05,390 --> 00:28:01,440
anything like it that big there was no

537
00:28:08,930 --> 00:28:05,400
noise it moved as if it was on gliding

538
00:28:12,649 --> 00:28:08,940
on Ice uh still without making noise

539
00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:12,659
and the whole issue of what had showed

540
00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:14,700
up in bent Waters was being had been

541
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:18,360
argued there among so many people over

542
00:28:26,930 --> 00:28:22,320
how many decades well here is an Insight

543
00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:26,940
that the same strange thing that he was

544
00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:29,820
seeing at upper Hayford and that went to

545
00:28:35,149 --> 00:28:32,760
Croton that it ended up in bent Waters

546
00:28:37,490 --> 00:28:35,159
but there's never Jimmy there has never

547
00:28:41,390 --> 00:28:37,500
been any description that I've ever

548
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:41,400
heard of a a triangle that was just

549
00:28:49,130 --> 00:28:44,640
suspended totally silent in the air even

550
00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:49,140
there so which came first right was this

551
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:52,740
craft what brought with it all of the

552
00:28:58,610 --> 00:28:55,440
phenomena that was unfolding that's

553
00:29:02,029 --> 00:28:58,620
right was it attracted to something else

554
00:29:04,610 --> 00:29:02,039
that was already at ref matwaters and

555
00:29:07,010 --> 00:29:04,620
maybe it had even gone there first and

556
00:29:11,090 --> 00:29:07,020
then to Upper Hayford and then to Croton

557
00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:11,100
and back we don't know because no one

558
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:14,400
there was no overview of any of what

559
00:29:19,730 --> 00:29:17,039
I've just reported to you guys there was

560
00:29:23,870 --> 00:29:19,740
no overview about that I'm only getting

561
00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:23,880
it for the first time in detail in 2023

562
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:27,240
March it sounds like I want your opinion

563
00:29:31,250 --> 00:29:28,320
on this

564
00:29:35,570 --> 00:29:31,260
um from the description of your Witness

565
00:29:39,409 --> 00:29:35,580
it sounds like the craft is similar a

566
00:29:41,570 --> 00:29:39,419
bigger version of what peniston reported

567
00:29:45,289 --> 00:29:41,580
well you know you know what I mean so

568
00:29:47,810 --> 00:29:45,299
maybe maybe they released uh maybe what

569
00:29:50,269 --> 00:29:47,820
uh appeared in randleship of course I'm

570
00:29:52,850 --> 00:29:50,279
just you know spitballing here we're

571
00:29:56,690 --> 00:29:52,860
whiteboarding together but

572
00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:56,700
um maybe we can add something that uh

573
00:30:02,029 --> 00:29:59,520
pettison and I and John worked on

574
00:30:05,810 --> 00:30:02,039
illustrations when we were doing stuff

575
00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:05,820
for Ancient Aliens and uh my book and

576
00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:08,700
various things and one one of the

577
00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:11,700
illustrations that peniston did as was

578
00:30:18,590 --> 00:30:13,880
of a black triangle but it was only

579
00:30:21,289 --> 00:30:18,600
approximately nine feet long uh it was I

580
00:30:24,889 --> 00:30:21,299
think seven feet six seven speed off the

581
00:30:26,690 --> 00:30:24,899
ground and uh I have an illustration in

582
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:26,700
my Earth Files YouTube channel that was

583
00:30:33,049 --> 00:30:30,000
on Wednesday night uh on the 22nd of

584
00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:33,059
this week you can see that you can see

585
00:30:39,970 --> 00:30:35,580
in if you go to the Earth Files YouTube

586
00:30:42,769 --> 00:30:39,980
channel and you click on the March

587
00:30:46,730 --> 00:30:42,779
22nd Earth Files YouTube channel it's

588
00:30:50,169 --> 00:30:46,740
the broadcast about uh what what went to

589
00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:50,179
three air bases uh in the UFO category

590
00:30:59,210 --> 00:30:56,100
and that the black triangle

591
00:31:01,010 --> 00:30:59,220
uh doing interviews with pennison and

592
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,020
John for Ancient Aliens

593
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:04,080
that he remembered that it seemed like

594
00:31:11,510 --> 00:31:08,640
it was black glass solid black glass but

595
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:11,520
had lights

596
00:31:19,149 --> 00:31:15,440
that were red green different colors

597
00:31:22,730 --> 00:31:19,159
moving underneath the glass

598
00:31:24,889 --> 00:31:22,740
the size is not the same but the idea of

599
00:31:27,529 --> 00:31:24,899
light right glass right right right

600
00:31:30,049 --> 00:31:27,539
right and and so going back to your

601
00:31:32,990 --> 00:31:30,059
eyewitness I find it

602
00:31:36,289 --> 00:31:33,000
very interesting of the description of

603
00:31:38,990 --> 00:31:36,299
the half balls with the electrostatic

604
00:31:42,289 --> 00:31:39,000
lightning uh that was multi-colored

605
00:31:45,169 --> 00:31:42,299
things are sounding very very similar

606
00:31:47,090 --> 00:31:45,179
here although they're isolated incidents

607
00:31:50,269 --> 00:31:47,100
and they're different they really are

608
00:31:52,370 --> 00:31:50,279
different because 60 to 80 foot try to

609
00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:52,380
imagine that's one quarter of the length

610
00:31:58,850 --> 00:31:55,380
of a football field sure that's what is

611
00:32:00,529 --> 00:31:58,860
in the air only about at one point he

612
00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:00,539
thought it was maybe somewhere between

613
00:32:05,690 --> 00:32:03,899
15 and 30 feet above them really low and

614
00:32:10,010 --> 00:32:05,700
here are three men standing there

615
00:32:13,850 --> 00:32:10,020
looking at this thing at no briefing no

616
00:32:17,210 --> 00:32:13,860
explanation and no one ever talked about

617
00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:17,220
it except for those three they talked to

618
00:32:22,909 --> 00:32:19,620
each other underneath it when they got

619
00:32:26,510 --> 00:32:22,919
back they were all told never to discuss

620
00:32:29,649 --> 00:32:26,520
it but doesn't that imply Jimmy that our

621
00:32:33,470 --> 00:32:29,659
government our military at some level

622
00:32:37,549 --> 00:32:33,480
knew a lot about whatever this large

623
00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:37,559
black craft was with the white light in

624
00:32:43,850 --> 00:32:41,360
these huge windows with the pulsing

625
00:32:45,110 --> 00:32:43,860
electrostatic light underneath somebody

626
00:32:49,549 --> 00:32:45,120
knew

627
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:49,559
or had some briefing about it or

628
00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:52,559
wouldn't there have been just Mayhem

629
00:32:58,310 --> 00:32:54,360
that there would have been things

630
00:33:01,970 --> 00:32:58,320
organized to come to uh uh probably to

631
00:33:05,570 --> 00:33:01,980
strafe it with bombs I mean yeah it

632
00:33:08,630 --> 00:33:05,580
implies a lot of knowledge at a high

633
00:33:12,830 --> 00:33:08,640
level about something that moved almost

634
00:33:16,430 --> 00:33:12,840
casually over three air bases in England

635
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:16,440
that were American bases December 26

636
00:33:23,450 --> 00:33:20,159
27th 28th and this was the after

637
00:33:26,269 --> 00:33:23,460
midnight on the 27th at upper Hayford

638
00:33:28,970 --> 00:33:26,279
and croughton and getting to RAF Ben

639
00:33:31,310 --> 00:33:28,980
waters you know your research and and

640
00:33:33,590 --> 00:33:31,320
how you get stuff done Linda and the way

641
00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:33,600
that you approach uh investigative

642
00:33:40,970 --> 00:33:36,840
journalism this is why

643
00:33:44,889 --> 00:33:40,980
um the parapod is is presenting you with

644
00:33:46,450 --> 00:33:44,899
the media Legend award next week and and

645
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:46,460
and

646
00:33:52,009 --> 00:33:49,620
again for those that that can't be there

647
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,019
uh this is why we're doing this show

648
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:54,720
tonight so we can celebrate next week

649
00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:57,120
Linda's traveling I'm traveling and we

650
00:34:02,330 --> 00:33:59,399
won't have an opportunity to do it but

651
00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:02,340
we're doing that tonight and

652
00:34:08,210 --> 00:34:05,519
um thank you thank you well you know the

653
00:34:10,970 --> 00:34:08,220
thing is and I look I presented you with

654
00:34:14,030 --> 00:34:10,980
Awards in the past right what am I one

655
00:34:17,450 --> 00:34:14,040
of my cool moments uh I know this sounds

656
00:34:21,409 --> 00:34:17,460
uh just so trivial

657
00:34:24,290 --> 00:34:21,419
um but uh one day this was I don't know

658
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:24,300
it was a few years ago and I was doing

659
00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:27,119
some research on you and I needed I

660
00:34:32,329 --> 00:34:28,800
needed something

661
00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:32,339
so I go to your Wikipedia page right and

662
00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:33,780
I'm just looking for whatever I was

663
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:35,700
looking for and on the right of the

664
00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:37,200
Wikipedia you don't know this you don't

665
00:34:41,810 --> 00:34:39,419
do your you know other people but there

666
00:34:43,070 --> 00:34:41,820
is a there's a thing uh there's a

667
00:34:45,770 --> 00:34:43,080
picture and it says Jimmy Church

668
00:34:47,869 --> 00:34:45,780
presenting Linda Moulton Howe with the

669
00:34:51,230 --> 00:34:47,879
Lifetime Achievement Award and it's you

670
00:34:53,389 --> 00:34:51,240
and I I'm not Brad life is complete and

671
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,399
it was a conscious life Expo is that

672
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:55,440
what it was yeah yeah yeah it was so

673
00:35:03,230 --> 00:34:58,880
cool and and you know

674
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:03,240
and I'm giving you this award but um I

675
00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:05,040
want to take a pill to live for another

676
00:35:11,690 --> 00:35:09,000
500 years I want to keep exploring I

677
00:35:13,550 --> 00:35:11,700
want to see how all this comes out well

678
00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:13,560
we're we're getting close we're getting

679
00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:15,540
close Okay so Linda

680
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:19,440
um uh What uh we're gonna present you uh

681
00:35:24,589 --> 00:35:22,560
with an award but uh you're gonna get a

682
00:35:26,329 --> 00:35:24,599
chance to to speak too what what do you

683
00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:26,339
what are you going to speak about next

684
00:35:30,130 --> 00:35:27,599
week

685
00:35:33,410 --> 00:35:30,140
it is one of my most favorite

686
00:35:38,270 --> 00:35:33,420
presentations and I keep adding and

687
00:35:42,530 --> 00:35:38,280
evolving from brains to galaxies the key

688
00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:42,540
is frequencies and the deeper and more

689
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:45,240
scientists that I have talked to people

690
00:35:50,930 --> 00:35:48,480
who are in the abduction category people

691
00:35:52,849 --> 00:35:50,940
who are in the military category the

692
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:52,859
Aerospace category the medical care

693
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:55,440
category

694
00:35:58,370 --> 00:35:57,119
frequency

695
00:36:01,370 --> 00:35:58,380
when

696
00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:01,380
I was working at Gaia

697
00:36:06,890 --> 00:36:05,040
with that Tim from Germany and it's

698
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,900
called Truth Hunter and we were doing

699
00:36:12,890 --> 00:36:08,640
this series

700
00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:12,900
he was introduced to me as possibly a

701
00:36:17,569 --> 00:36:15,660
hybrid working for a department in

702
00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:17,579
Germany

703
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:23,390
uh how to put this deliberately with

704
00:36:27,950 --> 00:36:24,960
deeper knowledge

705
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:27,960
from possibly a genetic connection

706
00:36:35,870 --> 00:36:31,680
to Grace and others and that that would

707
00:36:37,849 --> 00:36:35,880
be where I would have the ability to ask

708
00:36:41,870 --> 00:36:37,859
him questions

709
00:36:43,849 --> 00:36:41,880
and go as deeply as I possibly could

710
00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:43,859
and I think it was the second day

711
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,380
because we did uh interviews for two

712
00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:48,240
days

713
00:36:54,290 --> 00:36:51,240
I asked him a question about dimensions

714
00:36:57,170 --> 00:36:54,300
and it was like a gear shift

715
00:36:59,329 --> 00:36:57,180
and he went into one of the most

716
00:37:00,410 --> 00:36:59,339
intelligent explanations that I've ever

717
00:37:03,230 --> 00:37:00,420
heard

718
00:37:05,210 --> 00:37:03,240
about the whole issue of everything is

719
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:05,220
frequency connected

720
00:37:09,770 --> 00:37:08,880
from the particle level to the macro

721
00:37:13,490 --> 00:37:09,780
level

722
00:37:16,370 --> 00:37:13,500
and that if we knew the truth about how

723
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:16,380
it is all working together we would know

724
00:37:22,430 --> 00:37:19,200
that we are experiencing Consciousness

725
00:37:25,849 --> 00:37:22,440
in what is called the third dimension

726
00:37:28,849 --> 00:37:25,859
that there this is his count Tim's count

727
00:37:30,410 --> 00:37:28,859
that there are four five six seven eight

728
00:37:33,650 --> 00:37:30,420
nine ten

729
00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:33,660
total dimensions to this universe

730
00:37:38,750 --> 00:37:36,660
unless you know about those other seven

731
00:37:42,530 --> 00:37:38,760
Beyond three

732
00:37:46,069 --> 00:37:42,540
we are babies we are kept in a baby

733
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:46,079
perspective those other dimensions are

734
00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:47,760
the big engines

735
00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:49,260
and that

736
00:37:54,829 --> 00:37:50,460
what

737
00:37:57,050 --> 00:37:54,839
his communication with a particular type

738
00:38:02,349 --> 00:37:57,060
of gray that he was communicating with

739
00:38:07,970 --> 00:38:04,030
Humanity

740
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:07,980
needs to get from the third dimension to

741
00:38:12,650 --> 00:38:09,660
The Fifth Dimension

742
00:38:16,270 --> 00:38:12,660
and gave all of these complex facet

743
00:38:20,450 --> 00:38:16,280
reasons why that in the third dimension

744
00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:20,460
where we are caught by time

745
00:38:29,089 --> 00:38:25,980
uh we are caught by deterioration in a

746
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:29,099
very short segment of being born and

747
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:31,680
then we are supposed to retire from life

748
00:38:38,349 --> 00:38:35,040
and die in our 60s or 70s

749
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:38,359
that this is an artificial

750
00:38:43,310 --> 00:38:41,760
three-dimensional existence in order to

751
00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:43,320
learn

752
00:38:51,950 --> 00:38:47,160
in order to get to higher dimensions

753
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:51,960
and that the the eat the Grays told Tim

754
00:38:58,730 --> 00:38:55,440
who was talking to me in a truth on her

755
00:39:02,030 --> 00:38:58,740
that they would like to see Humanity

756
00:39:03,829 --> 00:39:02,040
be educated to bypass the fourth

757
00:39:07,130 --> 00:39:03,839
dimension altogether

758
00:39:11,450 --> 00:39:07,140
and get to the fifth where we would then

759
00:39:15,230 --> 00:39:11,460
begin to have information about how all

760
00:39:17,329 --> 00:39:15,240
of the frequencies work and that once

761
00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:17,339
you begin to understand the relationship

762
00:39:21,829 --> 00:39:20,040
of frequencies from the atomic particle

763
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:21,839
level up to the macro

764
00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:24,079
and you begin to understand

765
00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:28,200
that dimensions are separated by

766
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:29,400
frequency

767
00:39:35,930 --> 00:39:32,880
that the systems that work in our bodies

768
00:39:38,930 --> 00:39:35,940
at the micro level are separated in many

769
00:39:41,150 --> 00:39:38,940
ways by frequencies that the solar

770
00:39:43,790 --> 00:39:41,160
systems and the Suns that were in a

771
00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:43,800
universe that has an estimated three

772
00:39:50,050 --> 00:39:46,680
trillion stars at least

773
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:50,060
the Dynamics inside of this one universe

774
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,000
is all related to the frequencies from

775
00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:56,880
particle to macro

776
00:40:03,410 --> 00:40:00,000
that if you then go beyond this universe

777
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:03,420
into the concept of the multi-verse

778
00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:06,720
you then are what Roger Penrose in that

779
00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:09,780
interview I did with him in 2018 when I

780
00:40:14,569 --> 00:40:12,300
ask him sir what about the singularity

781
00:40:19,069 --> 00:40:14,579
that started this universe

782
00:40:21,950 --> 00:40:19,079
and his gentle UK voice said oh no Linda

783
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:21,960
no no singularity

784
00:40:25,970 --> 00:40:23,760
what we are in

785
00:40:29,690 --> 00:40:25,980
is an infinity

786
00:40:33,050 --> 00:40:29,700
of cycles of time

787
00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:33,060
all of it woven together

788
00:40:38,510 --> 00:40:36,839
frequencies frequencies moving through

789
00:40:43,550 --> 00:40:38,520
Infinity

790
00:40:46,250 --> 00:40:43,560
and wait we have only a tiny tiny lens

791
00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:46,260
in the third dimension

792
00:40:53,569 --> 00:40:50,760
I find this exciting I find it exciting

793
00:40:55,849 --> 00:40:53,579
to think that at the moment of our

794
00:40:57,530 --> 00:40:55,859
passing in the third dimensional matter

795
00:41:00,970 --> 00:40:57,540
world

796
00:41:04,910 --> 00:41:00,980
that there is reincarnation of our Vital

797
00:41:07,310 --> 00:41:04,920
energetic Souls that Tim says that that

798
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:07,320
we don't understand the power of our

799
00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:08,880
souls as humans

800
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:11,400
that we would then go into other

801
00:41:16,970 --> 00:41:14,040
reincarnated cycles and we are not the

802
00:41:21,230 --> 00:41:16,980
only Consciousness doing it

803
00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:21,240
and that all of it in all of its Roger

804
00:41:26,329 --> 00:41:24,720
Penrose the infinite cycles of time

805
00:41:34,310 --> 00:41:26,339
all of it

806
00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:34,320
because frequencies are separating out

807
00:41:41,810 --> 00:41:37,500
everything from Dimensions to the

808
00:41:43,490 --> 00:41:41,820
particles at the at the smallest level

809
00:41:47,810 --> 00:41:43,500
Atomic level

810
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:47,820
where it all works together in cycles

811
00:41:54,410 --> 00:41:51,359
and somehow I am now beginning to grok

812
00:41:56,990 --> 00:41:54,420
that I'm beginning for the first time to

813
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:57,000
feel that to have a sense of it

814
00:42:02,990 --> 00:42:01,200
and that's the sadness that we are at

815
00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:03,000
2023

816
00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:06,180
and we humans have still not been told

817
00:42:11,630 --> 00:42:09,599
by the power Brokers of Earth

818
00:42:13,550 --> 00:42:11,640
that we're not alone

819
00:42:18,290 --> 00:42:13,560
that there's

820
00:42:22,310 --> 00:42:18,300
three trillion Stars there's thousands

821
00:42:25,849 --> 00:42:22,320
millions of other intelligences and that

822
00:42:29,630 --> 00:42:25,859
we are a life form with Consciousness in

823
00:42:33,170 --> 00:42:29,640
our brains that can resonate with this

824
00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:33,180
entire universe if we were taught and

825
00:42:40,190 --> 00:42:35,640
that the Universe and all Consciousness

826
00:42:45,370 --> 00:42:40,200
in this universe are always in a

827
00:42:49,150 --> 00:42:45,380
frequency relationship with each other

828
00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:49,160
the uh the part of this

829
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:52,740
that I I find so compelling

830
00:42:58,550 --> 00:42:56,880
is that our community those that think

831
00:43:01,190 --> 00:42:58,560
outside of the box you know that are

832
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:01,200
pursuers of of knowledge

833
00:43:06,650 --> 00:43:04,640
um and our community is is is is is

834
00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:06,660
vastly different

835
00:43:11,870 --> 00:43:10,260
in that some of us are looking at life

836
00:43:13,569 --> 00:43:11,880
after death some of us are looking at

837
00:43:15,890 --> 00:43:13,579
Bigfoot some of us are looking at

838
00:43:18,530 --> 00:43:15,900
Consciousness some of us are discussing

839
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:18,540
UFO some of us discuss all of that uh

840
00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:20,640
and they're all facets of the same

841
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:24,060
Incredible Universe that's my point you

842
00:43:28,010 --> 00:43:25,920
know that's my point and so we have been

843
00:43:31,970 --> 00:43:28,020
going at this for a very long time

844
00:43:34,490 --> 00:43:31,980
yelling from the Treetops right and just

845
00:43:36,890 --> 00:43:34,500
now and and Roger Penn Rose who somebody

846
00:43:38,990 --> 00:43:36,900
I've read a lot of his books and I

847
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:39,000
really appreciate the way that he thinks

848
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,960
yes but but science today Linda is

849
00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:45,119
talking about all of the things that

850
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:47,220
this community has been shouting about

851
00:43:52,609 --> 00:43:50,640
for decades right and and now finally

852
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:52,619
they're coming to get you know when when

853
00:43:58,250 --> 00:43:55,680
when when Brian Greene because we've

854
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,260
been talking about 2D 3D 40 5D extra

855
00:44:04,370 --> 00:44:00,560
Dimensions

856
00:44:07,130 --> 00:44:04,380
some people argue 12 and that's why MJ

857
00:44:08,690 --> 00:44:07,140
12 was called 12 because they were 12

858
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:08,700
dimensions and they learned that from

859
00:44:14,450 --> 00:44:11,760
each one but today Kim and Germany

860
00:44:17,870 --> 00:44:14,460
insists it's 10 somebody else says it's

861
00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:17,880
12. for some reason we're always in

862
00:44:25,670 --> 00:44:21,480
arguments about the actual facts because

863
00:44:28,370 --> 00:44:25,680
nobody is talking to us as Consciousness

864
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:28,380
in this universe that's right and and so

865
00:44:33,410 --> 00:44:31,440
Brian Green right so he jumps into

866
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:33,420
string theory and starts to present

867
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:35,280
String Theory to the world so we can

868
00:44:40,849 --> 00:44:38,040
understand what he's working on and and

869
00:44:43,790 --> 00:44:40,859
his team of physicists and things and

870
00:44:47,510 --> 00:44:43,800
right there and if you read his books or

871
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:47,520
listen to him speak he says there are at

872
00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:50,400
least 11 dimensions and let me explain

873
00:44:56,690 --> 00:44:53,700
to you why well you know and it's just

874
00:44:59,390 --> 00:44:56,700
like we've been talking about this for a

875
00:45:01,790 --> 00:44:59,400
very long time but now finally things

876
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,800
are starting to mesh together Linda your

877
00:45:05,569 --> 00:45:03,359
research

878
00:45:08,690 --> 00:45:05,579
um that is always combined science and

879
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:08,700
I'm going to say it and the right and

880
00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:11,520
I've always been a hard-nosed journalist

881
00:45:17,329 --> 00:45:13,980
since I graduated from Stanford with a

882
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:17,339
master's in communication and I did

883
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:20,880
documentaries for Stanford University's

884
00:45:26,890 --> 00:45:23,760
Medical Center my Master's thesis was

885
00:45:30,410 --> 00:45:26,900
the Stanford linear accelerator particle

886
00:45:32,089 --> 00:45:30,420
where they were for the very first time

887
00:45:35,630 --> 00:45:32,099
if it's hard to believe I was at

888
00:45:37,970 --> 00:45:35,640
Stanford from 1966 to 68 getting my

889
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:37,980
master's degree and my Master's thesis

890
00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:41,280
was working with physicists who were

891
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:46,920
trying to see if they could capture uh

892
00:45:50,750 --> 00:45:48,240
on film

893
00:45:52,490 --> 00:45:50,760
some of the particle particle

894
00:45:54,589 --> 00:45:52,500
relationships that they were getting at

895
00:45:57,410 --> 00:45:54,599
the Stanford linear accelerator but more

896
00:46:01,130 --> 00:45:57,420
than that they wanted to bring to bear

897
00:46:03,770 --> 00:46:01,140
the digital world and have computers do

898
00:46:08,030 --> 00:46:03,780
the analysis of the particle bombardment

899
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:08,040
that was so laborious that was how we'll

900
00:46:14,809 --> 00:46:11,760
call it the new age of uh getting into

901
00:46:17,450 --> 00:46:14,819
computers and advanced science it was

902
00:46:19,550 --> 00:46:17,460
all taking place in a strange way in

903
00:46:22,609 --> 00:46:19,560
those two years when I was there right

904
00:46:25,430 --> 00:46:22,619
and when I left all of the work I went

905
00:46:28,030 --> 00:46:25,440
to work for KNBC as a reporter in Los

906
00:46:32,270 --> 00:46:28,040
Angeles and I was covering everything

907
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:32,280
and then I went to work at WCVB in

908
00:46:36,609 --> 00:46:34,800
Boston for the ABC station to do all

909
00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:36,619
medical programming for two years

910
00:46:44,089 --> 00:46:42,060
medical all kinds of diseases surgery uh

911
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:44,099
anything dealing with medicine and then

912
00:46:48,829 --> 00:46:46,800
they assigned me to do a whole series on

913
00:46:51,530 --> 00:46:48,839
science and I was working with

914
00:46:55,250 --> 00:46:51,540
Scientists at MIT and Harvard it was

915
00:46:57,290 --> 00:46:55,260
exciting as can be and I was married at

916
00:47:00,050 --> 00:46:57,300
the time and my husband was hired by

917
00:47:02,329 --> 00:47:00,060
time Inc and the assignment was in

918
00:47:05,390 --> 00:47:02,339
Denver and I became director of special

919
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:05,400
projects at the CBS station in Denver

920
00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:07,920
and my assignment there was to

921
00:47:14,990 --> 00:47:11,700
concentrate on Colorado's Astronaut

922
00:47:17,450 --> 00:47:15,000
training program I did a film on that uh

923
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:17,460
on all kinds of things related to

924
00:47:23,390 --> 00:47:20,640
Colorado and the nation and I worked

925
00:47:25,609 --> 00:47:23,400
with the governor uh on a live studio

926
00:47:30,290 --> 00:47:25,619
show where for 90 minutes the governor

927
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:30,300
and representatives and myself and an

928
00:47:35,150 --> 00:47:32,880
audience uh we were dealing with issues

929
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:35,160
that were very important at that time in

930
00:47:38,930 --> 00:47:36,480
Colorado

931
00:47:42,349 --> 00:47:38,940
so when

932
00:47:44,050 --> 00:47:42,359
the newspapers have headlines in

933
00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:44,060
September of

934
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:48,480
1979. I had graduated from Stanford in

935
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:53,040
68 so in a decade I had worked at the

936
00:48:00,829 --> 00:47:56,640
NBC ABC Now CBS I'm director of special

937
00:48:03,650 --> 00:48:00,839
projects and I am working all the time

938
00:48:06,050 --> 00:48:03,660
in science medicine the environment

939
00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:06,060
those are my Beats and I'm bringing all

940
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:08,760
new stuff constantly to the work I was

941
00:48:15,290 --> 00:48:12,319
doing in Denver and so I became

942
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:15,300
extremely interested in headlines in the

943
00:48:20,990 --> 00:48:17,040
Rocky Mountain news in the Denver pose

944
00:48:23,630 --> 00:48:21,000
right the return of bloodless trackless

945
00:48:27,530 --> 00:48:23,640
animal mutilations right and I

946
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:27,540
approached that with exactly the same

947
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:30,800
minding the same questions the same

948
00:48:37,730 --> 00:48:34,079
protocols that I would use if I were

949
00:48:41,569 --> 00:48:37,740
going to investigate a new disease and

950
00:48:45,470 --> 00:48:41,579
when you go from the very first two

951
00:48:49,130 --> 00:48:45,480
weeks of trying to get some kind of a uh

952
00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:49,140
like a you need a landscape to start out

953
00:48:53,450 --> 00:48:51,119
when you're going to do any documentary

954
00:48:55,970 --> 00:48:53,460
or film what is it that you're trying to

955
00:48:58,609 --> 00:48:55,980
find out and what are the facets that

956
00:49:01,790 --> 00:48:58,619
you're going to have to investigate and

957
00:49:05,630 --> 00:49:01,800
it was so clear that I needed to get law

958
00:49:07,490 --> 00:49:05,640
enforcement and get them to tell me what

959
00:49:09,890 --> 00:49:07,500
they thought was happening because of

960
00:49:12,650 --> 00:49:09,900
the bloodless trackless nature how in

961
00:49:16,609 --> 00:49:12,660
the world could there be a two thousand

962
00:49:19,849 --> 00:49:16,619
pound bull lying in dust With Ear Eye

963
00:49:23,329 --> 00:49:19,859
tongue jaw genitals and rectum cord out

964
00:49:26,089 --> 00:49:23,339
and there's not one track around the

965
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:26,099
body and that's where in those first two

966
00:49:32,650 --> 00:49:29,520
weeks I'm being confronted with hard

967
00:49:35,329 --> 00:49:32,660
physical data talking with sheriffs

968
00:49:39,050 --> 00:49:35,339
ultimately going up to see Sheriff text

969
00:49:42,170 --> 00:49:39,060
Graves and he is the sheriff who cut

970
00:49:45,410 --> 00:49:42,180
right to the heart of everything

971
00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:45,420
Linda the perpetrators of these animal

972
00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:48,180
mutilations are creatures from outer

973
00:49:55,790 --> 00:49:52,560
space I told you before when he when his

974
00:49:57,650 --> 00:49:55,800
words were in the air and I'm standing

975
00:50:00,530 --> 00:49:57,660
three feet in front of him and we're

976
00:50:04,190 --> 00:50:00,540
looking at each other eye to eye right

977
00:50:07,930 --> 00:50:04,200
it was like uh it was like a Char

978
00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:07,940
electric fence my entire body

979
00:50:13,790 --> 00:50:11,819
instantly felt like I was touching an

980
00:50:16,730 --> 00:50:13,800
electric fence it was electrical there

981
00:50:20,750 --> 00:50:16,740
was a slight pain to it it was my entire

982
00:50:25,849 --> 00:50:20,760
body and as I look back at that from now

983
00:50:27,609 --> 00:50:25,859
my 81st revolution around the Sun and at

984
00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:27,619
that point it was

985
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:32,640
1979 and I think I was 40 something

986
00:50:38,410 --> 00:50:36,480
that what I think was occurring

987
00:50:40,690 --> 00:50:38,420
is that

988
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:40,700
my soul

989
00:50:46,670 --> 00:50:42,960
my essence

990
00:50:49,790 --> 00:50:46,680
as a life form in a conscious universe

991
00:50:52,430 --> 00:50:49,800
that is conscious and interactive with

992
00:50:56,210 --> 00:50:52,440
all the consciousnesses in it

993
00:50:57,970 --> 00:50:56,220
I somehow caught up to at that very

994
00:51:01,490 --> 00:50:57,980
moment

995
00:51:05,470 --> 00:51:01,500
my destiny on the timeline right where

996
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:05,480
it was it was physical it was

997
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:08,720
profound and there was no possibility

998
00:51:17,390 --> 00:51:13,440
that I was ever ever conscious not going

999
00:51:20,210 --> 00:51:17,400
to go as deep as far as I could possibly

1000
00:51:23,630 --> 00:51:20,220
go in those strange animal mutilations

1001
00:51:27,849 --> 00:51:23,640
to find as much as I could and keep

1002
00:51:32,329 --> 00:51:27,859
reporting it and tonight is another hour

1003
00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:32,339
of the same 44 years yes I know I've

1004
00:51:37,730 --> 00:51:35,040
been trying to do your answer but but

1005
00:51:39,770 --> 00:51:37,740
Linda okay can I get a question in I

1006
00:51:45,710 --> 00:51:39,780
just want one question tonight just let

1007
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:45,720
me get one in but Linda how does one go

1008
00:51:54,410 --> 00:51:50,480
from an established pragmatic scientific

1009
00:51:58,329 --> 00:51:54,420
mindset as an investigative journalist

1010
00:52:02,510 --> 00:51:58,339
with a full education behind mind you

1011
00:52:05,049 --> 00:52:02,520
how do you go from that and then jump

1012
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:05,059
into the woo

1013
00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:09,119
you know what I know there is no woo to

1014
00:52:17,710 --> 00:52:13,880
animals cattle deer reindeer kangaroos

1015
00:52:20,950 --> 00:52:17,720
garments goats sheep

1016
00:52:24,290 --> 00:52:20,960
this has happened to animals

1017
00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:24,300
dozens of types of animals completely

1018
00:52:30,890 --> 00:52:27,780
around this planet the kangaroos in

1019
00:52:33,230 --> 00:52:30,900
Australia have the same excisions that

1020
00:52:35,930 --> 00:52:33,240
are bloodless of the cattle and the

1021
00:52:36,970 --> 00:52:35,940
horses this is pure you couldn't have

1022
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:36,980
anything

1023
00:52:46,370 --> 00:52:43,440
more physical right or absolutely in

1024
00:52:49,609 --> 00:52:46,380
your face here's the data and that's

1025
00:52:52,490 --> 00:52:49,619
what I reinforced by going to work with

1026
00:52:55,730 --> 00:52:52,500
John alchuler who was a pathologist

1027
00:52:58,370 --> 00:52:55,740
hematologist and I work with him on

1028
00:53:00,589 --> 00:52:58,380
dozens where I went out and into the

1029
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:00,599
field he provided the formal and

1030
00:53:05,150 --> 00:53:03,359
solution I would get the excisions that

1031
00:53:07,370 --> 00:53:05,160
could be the sheriffs and I would label

1032
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:07,380
it if this is the sheriff's cut here's

1033
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:10,079
the mutilator's cut here's Linda's cut

1034
00:53:16,609 --> 00:53:13,680
of those excisions it would go back in

1035
00:53:19,849 --> 00:53:16,619
formal and solution so that the hide

1036
00:53:22,910 --> 00:53:19,859
wouldn't Harden and we would get report

1037
00:53:27,890 --> 00:53:22,920
after report after report and it was

1038
00:53:30,530 --> 00:53:27,900
right there that hard data was being put

1039
00:53:34,430 --> 00:53:30,540
right in front of us on the microscopes

1040
00:53:38,030 --> 00:53:34,440
that Dr altruler was looking at these

1041
00:53:41,510 --> 00:53:38,040
prepared slides and finding that there

1042
00:53:43,790 --> 00:53:41,520
was high heat at the excision lines and

1043
00:53:46,250 --> 00:53:43,800
that would explain why so many of the

1044
00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:46,260
excision lines felt like plastic they

1045
00:53:51,790 --> 00:53:48,839
felt hard they didn't feel soft it would

1046
00:53:56,089 --> 00:53:51,800
explain why hemoglobin was not running

1047
00:54:00,170 --> 00:53:56,099
wherever this hardened heat was applied

1048
00:54:01,430 --> 00:54:00,180
but it would never never the heat would

1049
00:54:05,450 --> 00:54:01,440
not explain

1050
00:54:07,609 --> 00:54:05,460
what was the single greatest mystery to

1051
00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:07,619
every law enforcement person I talked to

1052
00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:10,920
every Rancher I talked to and to Dr

1053
00:54:14,690 --> 00:54:12,720
alchuler

1054
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:14,700
how could

1055
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,240
skilled veterinarians do a necropsy

1056
00:54:22,910 --> 00:54:20,400
whether it was a cow whether it was a

1057
00:54:26,569 --> 00:54:22,920
bull whether it was a steer

1058
00:54:28,069 --> 00:54:26,579
there's no excisions on the chest or at

1059
00:54:31,549 --> 00:54:28,079
the abdomen

1060
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:31,559
but they now do the necropsy maybe in

1061
00:54:36,109 --> 00:54:33,480
the field or back at the veterinarian

1062
00:54:38,809 --> 00:54:36,119
office and they open up the mutilated

1063
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:38,819
animal that has an ear eye tongue jaw

1064
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:41,760
genitals and rectal tissue taken now

1065
00:54:46,730 --> 00:54:44,640
they're opening up the animal they are

1066
00:54:49,309 --> 00:54:46,740
opening up the animal there was no

1067
00:54:51,950 --> 00:54:49,319
surgical cut they are opening it up to

1068
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:51,960
examine the internal organs and they

1069
00:54:58,010 --> 00:54:55,440
find that a liver is missing

1070
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:58,020
a gallbladder is missing

1071
00:55:04,430 --> 00:55:01,440
bladder is missing organs are missing

1072
00:55:06,829 --> 00:55:04,440
inside of the abdomen where they were

1073
00:55:09,230 --> 00:55:06,839
there they're the ones that are opening

1074
00:55:11,450 --> 00:55:09,240
it up and find the missing organs and

1075
00:55:15,950 --> 00:55:11,460
the greatest one of all that happened

1076
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:15,960
several times and Dr alchuler agreed

1077
00:55:22,849 --> 00:55:18,960
with me and a Dr Miller at Rose Medical

1078
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,859
Center that this was what separated all

1079
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:25,200
of the animal mutilation phenomena from

1080
00:55:31,970 --> 00:55:28,559
everything that could possibly be a

1081
00:55:33,170 --> 00:55:31,980
mundane human explanation right open up

1082
00:55:36,589 --> 00:55:33,180
the chest

1083
00:55:40,370 --> 00:55:36,599
a whole heart is missing inside of grown

1084
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:40,380
cattle they are approximately 9 by 11 by

1085
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:42,480
13 or some variation on those numbers

1086
00:55:49,010 --> 00:55:46,319
they're large and whole Hearts they are

1087
00:55:51,170 --> 00:55:49,020
not there they're not in the chest and

1088
00:55:54,589 --> 00:55:51,180
that they're the pericardium that

1089
00:55:58,130 --> 00:55:54,599
surrounded the heart has collapsed and

1090
00:56:00,349 --> 00:55:58,140
there is no blood there's no blood in

1091
00:56:02,930 --> 00:56:00,359
the arteries there's no blood in the

1092
00:56:05,089 --> 00:56:02,940
jugular vein there's no blood down in

1093
00:56:07,370 --> 00:56:05,099
the chest there's no blood on the

1094
00:56:10,370 --> 00:56:07,380
pericardium and there's no blood on the

1095
00:56:13,609 --> 00:56:10,380
ground no blood in the ground ever in

1096
00:56:17,329 --> 00:56:13,619
the what we'll call the true real animal

1097
00:56:20,390 --> 00:56:17,339
mutilations and so when you ask me how

1098
00:56:23,890 --> 00:56:20,400
did I go from a decade of hard-nosed

1099
00:56:27,410 --> 00:56:23,900
Medical Science environment

1100
00:56:30,829 --> 00:56:27,420
documentaries news reporting

1101
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:30,839
to animal mutilations it's exactly the

1102
00:56:36,609 --> 00:56:33,359
same thing I wanted to work with

1103
00:56:39,890 --> 00:56:36,619
Scientists I wanted to get pathology

1104
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:39,900
tests and that's what I did and as we

1105
00:56:46,130 --> 00:56:42,480
kept gaining all of the information

1106
00:56:48,109 --> 00:56:46,140
then I end up having ranchers say

1107
00:56:51,290 --> 00:56:48,119
I want you to know

1108
00:56:54,349 --> 00:56:51,300
that the night before I found this

1109
00:56:56,510 --> 00:56:54,359
mutilated animal I was standing out in

1110
00:56:59,030 --> 00:56:56,520
the front yard of my house and I was

1111
00:57:02,750 --> 00:56:59,040
looking up at the sky and there was this

1112
00:57:06,109 --> 00:57:02,760
light and Linda this light put a beam

1113
00:57:08,210 --> 00:57:06,119
down into the pasture and that the

1114
00:57:10,370 --> 00:57:08,220
ranchers I've talked with half a dozen

1115
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:10,380
people who were eyewitnesses and they

1116
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:13,440
said they were so frightened

1117
00:57:19,370 --> 00:57:17,280
that even though it's their pasture it's

1118
00:57:23,230 --> 00:57:19,380
their cattle in that case it was cattle

1119
00:57:27,650 --> 00:57:23,240
right they go back in their Farmhouse

1120
00:57:31,609 --> 00:57:27,660
they close and lock the doors they wait

1121
00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:31,619
until the sun comes up they walk back to

1122
00:57:37,010 --> 00:57:34,319
the pasture they know exactly where that

1123
00:57:38,930 --> 00:57:37,020
beam came down just like the beams out

1124
00:57:41,890 --> 00:57:38,940
in rendersham forest in a strange way

1125
00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:41,900
right right but but these are big enough

1126
00:57:48,049 --> 00:57:45,780
to hold an animal that can rise into the

1127
00:57:50,450 --> 00:57:48,059
beam or be lowered and in this

1128
00:57:54,349 --> 00:57:50,460
particular case the first interview I

1129
00:57:57,530 --> 00:57:54,359
did was a Rancher who had gone he had

1130
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:57,540
seen the uh beam come down into the

1131
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:00,720
pasture scared and didn't come back till

1132
00:58:07,849 --> 00:58:03,359
the sun came up and right where he had

1133
00:58:12,650 --> 00:58:07,859
seen the beam is one of his cattle ear I

1134
00:58:16,430 --> 00:58:12,660
tongue jaw genitals rectum cord out

1135
00:58:19,250 --> 00:58:16,440
lying right where in the night he had

1136
00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:19,260
seen the the beam come down where the

1137
00:58:24,530 --> 00:58:22,920
animal was when you get into those

1138
00:58:28,510 --> 00:58:24,540
discussions

1139
00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:28,520
and the idea of a beam that can either

1140
00:58:36,410 --> 00:58:32,940
carry a heavy 2 000 pound bull up in it

1141
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:36,420
into some kind of a craft and then lower

1142
00:58:41,230 --> 00:58:40,079
the animal mutilated back down onto the

1143
00:58:43,309 --> 00:58:41,240
ground

1144
00:58:46,970 --> 00:58:43,319
that is

1145
00:58:49,490 --> 00:58:46,980
now where we cross into the physics and

1146
00:58:51,650 --> 00:58:49,500
the Technologies of UFOs

1147
00:58:55,490 --> 00:58:51,660
not humans

1148
00:58:58,450 --> 00:58:55,500
humans do not have neutralizing gravity

1149
00:59:02,990 --> 00:58:58,460
beams or they didn't in

1150
00:59:06,349 --> 00:59:03,000
1966 67 68 animal mutilations actually

1151
00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:06,359
started being reported as early as 1961

1152
00:59:13,609 --> 00:59:09,720
in places like the San Luis Valley

1153
00:59:17,630 --> 00:59:13,619
so there was a body of what we'll call

1154
00:59:22,609 --> 00:59:17,640
not very much talked about information

1155
00:59:25,370 --> 00:59:22,619
but by 79 when I started investigating

1156
00:59:28,130 --> 00:59:25,380
it was all over the planet

1157
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:28,140
and they it was the size and the scope

1158
00:59:35,329 --> 00:59:31,680
of these cases and another one of those

1159
00:59:38,349 --> 00:59:35,339
uh kind of one of those interviews that

1160
00:59:41,809 --> 00:59:38,359
haunts you and in the animal mutilations

1161
00:59:44,690 --> 00:59:41,819
this was one and it was with a Royal

1162
00:59:46,250 --> 00:59:44,700
Canadian Mounted Police

1163
00:59:47,630 --> 00:59:46,260
in Calgary

1164
00:59:49,970 --> 00:59:47,640
and

1165
00:59:52,010 --> 00:59:49,980
they told me

1166
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:52,020
it one of the men that I was talking to

1167
00:59:57,170 --> 00:59:53,760
he said

1168
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:57,180
we we know this cannot be human

1169
01:00:04,670 --> 01:00:00,960
and we would like to ask you

1170
01:00:08,750 --> 01:00:04,680
if you would report to us how many cases

1171
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:08,760
you find in which specific molars are

1172
01:00:14,569 --> 01:00:11,520
missing in the teeth

1173
01:00:17,329 --> 01:00:14,579
because we have not reported this we

1174
01:00:19,549 --> 01:00:17,339
have not let any media know in Canada

1175
01:00:21,890 --> 01:00:19,559
about the missing teeth

1176
01:00:24,349 --> 01:00:21,900
and we have seen your film your

1177
01:00:26,690 --> 01:00:24,359
documentary a strange Harvest and we

1178
01:00:28,490 --> 01:00:26,700
know that you are reporting what we have

1179
01:00:30,770 --> 01:00:28,500
concluded but we don't want it to be

1180
01:00:33,410 --> 01:00:30,780
public they said those words to me and

1181
01:00:36,049 --> 01:00:33,420
they said so if you would agree to let

1182
01:00:39,589 --> 01:00:36,059
us know if you are finding missing

1183
01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:39,599
molars we are building a case that that

1184
01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:42,960
is happening here in the Calgary region

1185
01:00:48,230 --> 01:00:45,839
and we would like to know if you find it

1186
01:00:52,910 --> 01:00:48,240
in Colorado or other cases

1187
01:00:55,370 --> 01:00:52,920
so this was an example of where the law

1188
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:55,380
enforcement side of it is saying to an

1189
01:01:02,089 --> 01:00:58,559
investigative reporter and TV producer

1190
01:01:05,210 --> 01:01:02,099
help us get track of physical evidence

1191
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:05,220
that is highly strange but let's not

1192
01:01:10,490 --> 01:01:07,680
report it so that we don't have people

1193
01:01:13,970 --> 01:01:10,500
muddying The Waters by attacking

1194
01:01:16,609 --> 01:01:13,980
and I experienced a lot of that

1195
01:01:18,349 --> 01:01:16,619
eventually where I would get phone calls

1196
01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:18,359
from people who say we've seen your

1197
01:01:23,690 --> 01:01:20,640
reporting we know that you are doing

1198
01:01:27,890 --> 01:01:23,700
honest work we understand the details

1199
01:01:31,250 --> 01:01:27,900
want you to know about X Y and Z but we

1200
01:01:35,210 --> 01:01:31,260
will not talk to you on camera that also

1201
01:01:39,170 --> 01:01:35,220
happened a lot and then eventually

1202
01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:39,180
when HBO came to me and said that they

1203
01:01:43,789 --> 01:01:41,760
wanted to do a document have me contract

1204
01:01:48,770 --> 01:01:43,799
with them that I would do a documentary

1205
01:01:52,309 --> 01:01:48,780
for HBO broadcast about not just animal

1206
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:52,319
mutilations the whole bigger picture and

1207
01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:55,440
we called it UFOs the ET factor and I

1208
01:01:59,930 --> 01:01:57,839
wrote a script a whole script with

1209
01:02:02,870 --> 01:01:59,940
scenes that's something that I've always

1210
01:02:05,390 --> 01:02:02,880
been able to do so that they the people

1211
01:02:07,010 --> 01:02:05,400
putting up the money at HBO could see

1212
01:02:10,670 --> 01:02:07,020
where what I would do

1213
01:02:14,569 --> 01:02:10,680
they loved the script and I start

1214
01:02:15,890 --> 01:02:14,579
working have signed a contract and what

1215
01:02:19,730 --> 01:02:15,900
happens

1216
01:02:21,730 --> 01:02:19,740
I'm gonna do X Y and Z and they all get

1217
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:21,740
blocked

1218
01:02:29,450 --> 01:02:26,160
and that is now the story where uh I

1219
01:02:32,349 --> 01:02:29,460
went back to New York uh to talk about

1220
01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:32,359
what I was learning with Peter Gerson

1221
01:02:40,010 --> 01:02:35,760
and uh Richard Dodie and these people

1222
01:02:42,849 --> 01:02:40,020
about going to an air base where there

1223
01:02:46,069 --> 01:02:42,859
had been mutilations a UFO landing

1224
01:02:48,289 --> 01:02:46,079
something that looked like lasers and

1225
01:02:53,210 --> 01:02:48,299
that we would recreate

1226
01:02:55,849 --> 01:02:53,220
and that uh that I would be also shown

1227
01:03:00,549 --> 01:02:55,859
and allowed to use film

1228
01:03:02,150 --> 01:03:00,559
of a Holloman Air Force Base Landing

1229
01:03:07,250 --> 01:03:02,160
pre-arranged

1230
01:03:09,829 --> 01:03:07,260
uh April 25th 1964 and that I would be

1231
01:03:15,789 --> 01:03:09,839
allowed to show film

1232
01:03:20,030 --> 01:03:15,799
of the disc Landing and a large nosed

1233
01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:20,040
ropey-headed dressed E.T coming out of a

1234
01:03:29,030 --> 01:03:24,000
craft meeting with uh

1235
01:03:31,789 --> 01:03:29,040
a science type and Military types and an

1236
01:03:33,170 --> 01:03:31,799
exchange of which we gave back dead

1237
01:03:34,730 --> 01:03:33,180
bodies

1238
01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:34,740
to them

1239
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:38,700
and they gave us technology

1240
01:03:44,030 --> 01:03:41,280
and the you know that that's the

1241
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:44,040
emanager story that there are lots of

1242
01:03:51,770 --> 01:03:45,839
facets of it but I'm going all the way

1243
01:03:54,650 --> 01:03:51,780
back to uh March of 1983 all of that was

1244
01:03:56,450 --> 01:03:54,660
told to me that I would be able to tell

1245
01:04:01,670 --> 01:03:56,460
in this film

1246
01:04:04,849 --> 01:04:01,680
and then all of it gets blocked and that

1247
01:04:06,829 --> 01:04:04,859
was the where HBO said unless you can

1248
01:04:09,530 --> 01:04:06,839
bring us the president of the United

1249
01:04:10,329 --> 01:04:09,540
States the vice president the Secretary

1250
01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:10,339
of

1251
01:04:19,250 --> 01:04:17,280
authorize funding you can continue to do

1252
01:04:22,789 --> 01:04:19,260
the work but we will not authorize

1253
01:04:27,170 --> 01:04:22,799
funding unless you can bring to us

1254
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:27,180
top government confirmation of the UFOs

1255
01:04:30,670 --> 01:04:29,880
the ETS being real in other words they

1256
01:04:36,470 --> 01:04:30,680
wanted

1257
01:04:39,049 --> 01:04:36,480
something from the White House didn't

1258
01:04:43,609 --> 01:04:39,059
they I mean they wanted if they wanted

1259
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:43,619
an official break they wanted what you I

1260
01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:45,359
and everybody who's going to be a

1261
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:47,280
peripod everybody who's going to be at

1262
01:04:51,710 --> 01:04:49,440
portal to Ascension everybody who's

1263
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:51,720
going to be a contact in the desert and

1264
01:04:57,710 --> 01:04:53,359
was it conscious life

1265
01:05:00,470 --> 01:04:57,720
we want the truth out we want the whole

1266
01:05:03,650 --> 01:05:00,480
planet to know what I and a few others

1267
01:05:07,190 --> 01:05:03,660
have been hearing behind the scenes so

1268
01:05:09,349 --> 01:05:07,200
to speak from people in military and in

1269
01:05:12,589 --> 01:05:09,359
government and in medicine and in

1270
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:12,599
Aerospace who have been telling me for

1271
01:05:17,210 --> 01:05:14,720
44 years

1272
01:05:20,390 --> 01:05:17,220
extraterrestrial biological entities

1273
01:05:23,809 --> 01:05:20,400
have been manipulating DNA in already

1274
01:05:27,230 --> 01:05:23,819
evolving species on this planet for at

1275
01:05:30,349 --> 01:05:27,240
least and then that's where you can draw

1276
01:05:32,089 --> 01:05:30,359
the line at 45 000 years for Neanderthal

1277
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:32,099
to Chrome onion or wherever you want to

1278
01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:33,200
draw the line

1279
01:05:39,950 --> 01:05:36,240
genetic manipulation of life forms on

1280
01:05:45,170 --> 01:05:39,960
this laboratory Earth is one story

1281
01:05:47,569 --> 01:05:45,180
which non-humans are the controllers of

1282
01:05:49,609 --> 01:05:47,579
various experiments that's a whole

1283
01:05:52,910 --> 01:05:49,619
nother huge facet

1284
01:05:55,970 --> 01:05:52,920
the relationship of power Brokers in the

1285
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:55,980
evolution of earth going back to the

1286
01:06:03,289 --> 01:05:59,760
time of Mesopotamia going back as far as

1287
01:06:06,049 --> 01:06:03,299
the Anunnaki coming forward those were

1288
01:06:09,530 --> 01:06:06,059
power Brokers that would be in the

1289
01:06:11,390 --> 01:06:09,540
category of other intelligence that

1290
01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:11,400
we're interacting with and manipulating

1291
01:06:16,970 --> 01:06:15,119
DNA on a planet that has been used as a

1292
01:06:23,270 --> 01:06:16,980
laboratory to create many different

1293
01:06:26,510 --> 01:06:23,280
species jump to Linda 1979 to today

1294
01:06:28,609 --> 01:06:26,520
the animal mutilations from the best

1295
01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:28,619
information that I could possibly

1296
01:06:35,329 --> 01:06:30,960
describe

1297
01:06:39,470 --> 01:06:35,339
they have been the Harvest of fluids and

1298
01:06:42,349 --> 01:06:39,480
tissues in order to provide specific

1299
01:06:45,950 --> 01:06:42,359
well let's just say ingredients whether

1300
01:06:48,650 --> 01:06:45,960
it's fluid or tissue

1301
01:06:50,690 --> 01:06:48,660
ingredients that are sustenance for a

1302
01:06:54,170 --> 01:06:50,700
particular gray type

1303
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:54,180
and that there are all kinds of needs

1304
01:06:58,970 --> 01:06:56,160
and that we're dealing with a lot of

1305
01:07:03,529 --> 01:06:58,980
different intelligences and that our

1306
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:03,539
planet has been a laboratory a place

1307
01:07:09,049 --> 01:07:06,240
where thousands and thousands and

1308
01:07:12,230 --> 01:07:09,059
thousands of genetic manipulations could

1309
01:07:17,809 --> 01:07:12,240
be done in order to make different life

1310
01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:17,819
forms and that we are only waking up in

1311
01:07:24,589 --> 01:07:20,400
now the 22nd century

1312
01:07:28,250 --> 01:07:24,599
as if the next big break open

1313
01:07:30,950 --> 01:07:28,260
I hope will be the web telescope

1314
01:07:33,770 --> 01:07:30,960
being used to report a biological

1315
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:33,780
signature and that if they will just

1316
01:07:38,930 --> 01:07:36,240
start getting into biological signatures

1317
01:07:41,690 --> 01:07:38,940
and let that lead to what our government

1318
01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:41,700
has known since World War II

1319
01:07:47,450 --> 01:07:44,280
let me let me terrestrial biological

1320
01:07:50,270 --> 01:07:47,460
entities have been on this planet in

1321
01:07:54,589 --> 01:07:50,280
this solar system for at least 278

1322
01:07:55,970 --> 01:07:54,599
million years and we are the babies just

1323
01:07:59,029 --> 01:07:55,980
waking up

1324
01:08:00,289 --> 01:07:59,039
so what's the update with uh Trappist

1325
01:08:01,670 --> 01:08:00,299
one

1326
01:08:05,690 --> 01:08:01,680
well

1327
01:08:10,130 --> 01:08:05,700
two it was two full years ago

1328
01:08:12,770 --> 01:08:10,140
uh was the first communication that I

1329
01:08:15,950 --> 01:08:12,780
had through an aerospace source

1330
01:08:18,229 --> 01:08:15,960
that well let me put the date I can't

1331
01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:18,239
quite remember when it unfurled it

1332
01:08:22,970 --> 01:08:20,520
probably wasn't full two years this was

1333
01:08:26,809 --> 01:08:22,980
a statement to me when we were getting

1334
01:08:28,910 --> 01:08:26,819
ready to launch web and then more

1335
01:08:32,110 --> 01:08:28,920
information after but I've known about

1336
01:08:35,570 --> 01:08:32,120
the use of it for quite a while

1337
01:08:37,309 --> 01:08:35,580
that they wanted to see if they could

1338
01:08:40,970 --> 01:08:37,319
have the web everything would be

1339
01:08:43,070 --> 01:08:40,980
operational and then ultimately the idea

1340
01:08:45,169 --> 01:08:43,080
was that they would be able to report

1341
01:08:46,749 --> 01:08:45,179
there was a recent report just in the

1342
01:08:49,370 --> 01:08:46,759
last week or so

1343
01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:49,380
planetary atmospheres

1344
01:08:56,269 --> 01:08:52,020
and that they could then use the web

1345
01:09:01,130 --> 01:08:56,279
with its ability its Advanced ability

1346
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:01,140
to aim at certain solar systems and that

1347
01:09:08,570 --> 01:09:04,560
they would be able to discuss what would

1348
01:09:11,209 --> 01:09:08,580
be atmospheres around planets that that

1349
01:09:12,890 --> 01:09:11,219
was one of the hopes that Webb would be

1350
01:09:14,689 --> 01:09:12,900
able to do

1351
01:09:16,370 --> 01:09:14,699
if

1352
01:09:20,890 --> 01:09:16,380
what I was told

1353
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:20,900
is that Webb would be able to also

1354
01:09:25,610 --> 01:09:23,759
confirm if there were biological

1355
01:09:28,970 --> 01:09:25,620
signatures

1356
01:09:30,729 --> 01:09:28,980
in the uh climate atmosphere the

1357
01:09:33,650 --> 01:09:30,739
atmospheric

1358
01:09:37,309 --> 01:09:33,660
constituents around a planet

1359
01:09:41,450 --> 01:09:37,319
now a biological signature

1360
01:09:44,689 --> 01:09:41,460
doesn't mean that it's a humanoid

1361
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:44,699
a biological signature would be the

1362
01:09:49,610 --> 01:09:47,279
first confirmation of something

1363
01:09:52,729 --> 01:09:49,620
that we would put in the category of

1364
01:09:56,510 --> 01:09:52,739
biological life that they still have not

1365
01:09:59,870 --> 01:09:56,520
reported even on Mars right

1366
01:10:02,030 --> 01:09:59,880
they come up and say this looks like the

1367
01:10:03,950 --> 01:10:02,040
way A fungi would work or this or this

1368
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:03,960
but nothing has been

1369
01:10:08,150 --> 01:10:06,960
put into even biological signature on

1370
01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:08,160
Mars

1371
01:10:13,729 --> 01:10:10,260
Trappist

1372
01:10:16,250 --> 01:10:13,739
this information that came to me I think

1373
01:10:18,169 --> 01:10:16,260
of it as a two full years ago it may not

1374
01:10:20,030 --> 01:10:18,179
be quite that far back

1375
01:10:23,209 --> 01:10:20,040
that web

1376
01:10:24,610 --> 01:10:23,219
they knew that Trappist has these seven

1377
01:10:26,229 --> 01:10:24,620
planets

1378
01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:26,239
seven

1379
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:29,940
earth-like planets and that the fourth

1380
01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:31,679
one from the Sun

1381
01:10:36,830 --> 01:10:33,600
has water

1382
01:10:38,209 --> 01:10:36,840
watery and Rocky substances very much

1383
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:38,219
like Earth

1384
01:10:42,770 --> 01:10:39,840
and that

1385
01:10:45,770 --> 01:10:42,780
I have had other sources who said they

1386
01:10:49,010 --> 01:10:45,780
already know that there is a

1387
01:10:50,810 --> 01:10:49,020
civilization interacting with or has

1388
01:10:52,850 --> 01:10:50,820
bases on

1389
01:10:54,229 --> 01:10:52,860
in the Trappist system

1390
01:10:57,169 --> 01:10:54,239
and that

1391
01:10:59,390 --> 01:10:57,179
what Webb could do

1392
01:11:02,830 --> 01:10:59,400
pure science

1393
01:11:06,890 --> 01:11:02,840
we we get breaking news

1394
01:11:10,510 --> 01:11:06,900
atmosphere on X Planet at the trappist-1

1395
01:11:15,470 --> 01:11:10,520
solar system very uh Earth-like planet

1396
01:11:18,310 --> 01:11:15,480
and it is showing a biological signature

1397
01:11:22,010 --> 01:11:18,320
that that's what could happen and then

1398
01:11:24,950 --> 01:11:22,020
from there biological signature would

1399
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:24,960
then be debated and analyzed and talked

1400
01:11:29,870 --> 01:11:28,800
about a scientists and news around the

1401
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:29,880
planet

1402
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:33,840
and then they would either decide that

1403
01:11:42,070 --> 01:11:37,280
they would then open up more information

1404
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:42,080
about actual civilization

1405
01:11:48,410 --> 01:11:46,080
or just leave it biological signature

1406
01:11:51,770 --> 01:11:48,420
for another year or so

1407
01:11:54,290 --> 01:11:51,780
while they keep trying to

1408
01:11:57,290 --> 01:11:54,300
what should we say Jimmy at this point

1409
01:12:00,169 --> 01:11:57,300
it's been so schizophrenic

1410
01:12:03,350 --> 01:12:00,179
the sense last year was that the

1411
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:03,360
government was finally getting ready uh

1412
01:12:08,330 --> 01:12:06,960
through that uh what now is called Arrow

1413
01:12:09,890 --> 01:12:08,340
office

1414
01:12:14,149 --> 01:12:09,900
to

1415
01:12:17,390 --> 01:12:14,159
at least open up a lot more about pilot

1416
01:12:20,030 --> 01:12:17,400
interactions with things that we're

1417
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:20,040
doing physical uh physical physical

1418
01:12:25,370 --> 01:12:22,800
speeds stopping on a dime 90 degree

1419
01:12:28,490 --> 01:12:25,380
turns humans cannot do that

1420
01:12:32,990 --> 01:12:28,500
and Lou Elizondo and others described

1421
01:12:35,689 --> 01:12:33,000
the observables that included that going

1422
01:12:37,850 --> 01:12:35,699
12 000 miles an hour stopping in the air

1423
01:12:40,970 --> 01:12:37,860
humans cannot do that

1424
01:12:43,070 --> 01:12:40,980
and or going 12 000 miles an hour and

1425
01:12:46,570 --> 01:12:43,080
then doing a 90 degree turn humans

1426
01:12:48,189 --> 01:12:46,580
cannot do that and those are multiple

1427
01:12:51,649 --> 01:12:48,199
observes

1428
01:12:56,209 --> 01:12:51,659
observables of the UFO phenomena for

1429
01:12:59,209 --> 01:12:56,219
what since at least World War II

1430
01:13:03,830 --> 01:12:59,219
so we are right now

1431
01:13:09,530 --> 01:13:07,610
still in a planet that humans are

1432
01:13:13,570 --> 01:13:09,540
fighting each other

1433
01:13:16,550 --> 01:13:13,580
in the terrible Ukraine

1434
01:13:19,729 --> 01:13:16,560
Technologies are available and hidden

1435
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:19,739
that have been provided through our

1436
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:22,320
relationship with non-humans like the

1437
01:13:26,810 --> 01:13:23,760
tall whites and the nordics and the

1438
01:13:32,689 --> 01:13:30,470
and we thought I did I thought surely

1439
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:32,699
this will happen they will open this up

1440
01:13:39,890 --> 01:13:36,480
in April of 2023 and we will have a

1441
01:13:42,649 --> 01:13:39,900
biological signature and at last all

1442
01:13:46,430 --> 01:13:42,659
humans who have had straightforward

1443
01:13:50,750 --> 01:13:46,440
experiences with other beings can begin

1444
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:50,760
to slowly be heard as credible

1445
01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:54,719
ear Witnesses eyewitnesses and we will

1446
01:14:04,189 --> 01:13:59,280
be introduced to allies and we will

1447
01:14:07,729 --> 01:14:04,199
finally finally join this universe

1448
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:07,739
in where the brain of a human

1449
01:14:15,169 --> 01:14:11,280
and a Galaxy and a universe

1450
01:14:17,689 --> 01:14:15,179
are made to resonate with each other

1451
01:14:19,490 --> 01:14:17,699
Roger Penrose I know would agree with

1452
01:14:22,970 --> 01:14:19,500
that statement

1453
01:14:26,570 --> 01:14:22,980
instead it feels like something is

1454
01:14:29,510 --> 01:14:26,580
retracting again it feels like we are

1455
01:14:31,850 --> 01:14:29,520
coming up into April with everything

1456
01:14:33,950 --> 01:14:31,860
should have been a go to at least get

1457
01:14:35,830 --> 01:14:33,960
out the information that would lead to

1458
01:14:38,689 --> 01:14:35,840
the there's

1459
01:14:40,490 --> 01:14:38,699
168 civilizations that just at this end

1460
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:40,500
of the Milky Way galaxy is what I

1461
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:44,400
understand right and if we come up again

1462
01:14:52,850 --> 01:14:48,719
to another screeching halt like the man

1463
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:52,860
Smith Jones at upper Hayford

1464
01:14:59,030 --> 01:14:55,199
he and two men

1465
01:15:00,350 --> 01:14:59,040
are just a few yards underneath a huge

1466
01:15:02,810 --> 01:15:00,360
triangle

1467
01:15:06,350 --> 01:15:02,820
they all three know that they were it

1468
01:15:08,570 --> 01:15:06,360
was there they saw the whatever you want

1469
01:15:10,970 --> 01:15:08,580
to call it the electrostatic

1470
01:15:13,910 --> 01:15:10,980
material that was going on the bottom

1471
01:15:15,709 --> 01:15:13,920
they knew that there was not one sound

1472
01:15:19,570 --> 01:15:15,719
that this craft

1473
01:15:25,610 --> 01:15:23,570
those men those women who have been in

1474
01:15:27,709 --> 01:15:25,620
those situations so many of them

1475
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:27,719
hundreds of them that have communicated

1476
01:15:32,990 --> 01:15:30,960
with me and continue to communicate and

1477
01:15:34,370 --> 01:15:33,000
I have to protect them

1478
01:15:36,890 --> 01:15:34,380
why

1479
01:15:41,209 --> 01:15:36,900
are we having to protect

1480
01:15:42,669 --> 01:15:41,219
the truth and truth tellers why can this

1481
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:42,679
not be

1482
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:46,320
spring when they finally start telling

1483
01:15:53,649 --> 01:15:49,199
the truth and that's why none of this is

1484
01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:53,659
woo-woo Jim no yeah it's never been

1485
01:16:01,370 --> 01:15:58,560
I use I use Wu as a as a as a blanket to

1486
01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:01,380
cover everything but my but if we go

1487
01:16:06,610 --> 01:16:03,600
back to my question at which I'm not

1488
01:16:12,070 --> 01:16:10,370
that no no no no no I want to stay right

1489
01:16:15,410 --> 01:16:12,080
where we are because

1490
01:16:19,490 --> 01:16:15,420
a few things did happen this week I I

1491
01:16:23,149 --> 01:16:19,500
found very interesting one we have uh uh

1492
01:16:27,610 --> 01:16:23,159
the the paper written by Avi loben uh

1493
01:16:30,890 --> 01:16:27,620
Kirkpatrick about and the thing is

1494
01:16:34,250 --> 01:16:30,900
the thing that they they stated in there

1495
01:16:35,050 --> 01:16:34,260
and I just really really

1496
01:16:38,510 --> 01:16:35,060
um

1497
01:16:41,390 --> 01:16:38,520
and perplexed it's not the statement

1498
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:41,400
about a Mothership dropping off probes

1499
01:16:45,709 --> 01:16:44,159
that's pretty you know and for Ivy to

1500
01:16:48,169 --> 01:16:45,719
write that

1501
01:16:53,450 --> 01:16:48,179
um you have to ask the most important

1502
01:16:55,970 --> 01:16:53,460
question which is why what is Avi basing

1503
01:16:58,910 --> 01:16:55,980
this on he's a very smart guy he doesn't

1504
01:17:01,130 --> 01:16:58,920
just write stuff to write it he has

1505
01:17:04,010 --> 01:17:01,140
people coming to him like I have people

1506
01:17:06,890 --> 01:17:04,020
coming to me that are frustrated and

1507
01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:06,900
they know we are in a universe that is

1508
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:08,640
full and teaming with other

1509
01:17:14,350 --> 01:17:10,800
Consciousness correct and that they are

1510
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:14,360
trying to find how do we crack it open

1511
01:17:20,570 --> 01:17:17,760
without causing hysteria in some

1512
01:17:22,910 --> 01:17:20,580
populations and boredom in other

1513
01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:22,920
populations because they're going to be

1514
01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:25,920
so many people that you and I know who

1515
01:17:30,590 --> 01:17:28,080
will say I told you so yeah I know

1516
01:17:33,649 --> 01:17:30,600
exactly right exactly right so we had

1517
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:33,659
that this week we'll Circle back to it

1518
01:17:38,750 --> 01:17:35,520
I'm not going to let that go

1519
01:17:42,350 --> 01:17:38,760
um but uh number two uh just yesterday

1520
01:17:46,729 --> 01:17:42,360
James Webb uh the the team there

1521
01:17:48,830 --> 01:17:46,739
announced uh it's not the first bio

1522
01:17:51,830 --> 01:17:48,840
signatures that they have discovered but

1523
01:17:55,490 --> 01:17:51,840
it was the most on a single planet to

1524
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:55,500
date they found five bio signatures on

1525
01:17:59,689 --> 01:17:57,600
one planet I don't have the name of the

1526
01:18:02,090 --> 01:17:59,699
the number designation of the planet in

1527
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:02,100
front of me but they found water they

1528
01:18:10,010 --> 01:18:04,400
found oxygen they found carbon monoxide

1529
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:10,020
carbon monoxide but a bio signature is

1530
01:18:15,890 --> 01:18:13,679
is something that would tie it directly

1531
01:18:19,310 --> 01:18:15,900
to biological life you're talking about

1532
01:18:21,250 --> 01:18:19,320
ingredients for biological life I

1533
01:18:25,850 --> 01:18:21,260
reported that I'm talking about

1534
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:25,860
reporting biological life but isn't it

1535
01:18:31,370 --> 01:18:29,520
exciting Linda yeah oh by the way the

1536
01:18:34,610 --> 01:18:31,380
way that Linda and I are talking right

1537
01:18:37,390 --> 01:18:34,620
now this is how we do it over champagne

1538
01:18:41,330 --> 01:18:37,400
uh late into the night this is not some

1539
01:18:44,750 --> 01:18:41,340
uh Jimmy and Linda no no this is how

1540
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:44,760
Linda and I just talked and we're doing

1541
01:18:49,550 --> 01:18:46,560
that tonight but Linda isn't that

1542
01:18:52,250 --> 01:18:49,560
exciting to have those five so the

1543
01:18:55,070 --> 01:18:52,260
system and maybe that is a going to

1544
01:18:58,550 --> 01:18:55,080
indicate that they're finally going to

1545
01:18:59,930 --> 01:18:58,560
open this up using the web exactly as it

1546
01:19:03,110 --> 01:18:59,940
was described to me a couple of years

1547
01:19:07,250 --> 01:19:03,120
ago right and what a great thing if they

1548
01:19:10,970 --> 01:19:07,260
would do it oh my God to give this whole

1549
01:19:13,189 --> 01:19:10,980
planet more hope right right now doesn't

1550
01:19:16,130 --> 01:19:13,199
the planet feel like it's being sucked

1551
01:19:19,189 --> 01:19:16,140
into a timeline with the Ukrainian and

1552
01:19:21,290 --> 01:19:19,199
the the China and Russia and that

1553
01:19:24,169 --> 01:19:21,300
everybody is worried we're going to have

1554
01:19:26,990 --> 01:19:24,179
a nuclear war on this planet as insane

1555
01:19:32,090 --> 01:19:27,000
as that would be and there's something

1556
01:19:34,729 --> 01:19:32,100
about talking with Scientists looking at

1557
01:19:37,610 --> 01:19:34,739
the web they're finding that there are

1558
01:19:39,950 --> 01:19:37,620
atmospheres around planets and what if

1559
01:19:43,610 --> 01:19:39,960
they do and can report a biological

1560
01:19:46,330 --> 01:19:43,620
signature could that completely change

1561
01:19:50,930 --> 01:19:46,340
this feeling that we're being shut in

1562
01:19:53,990 --> 01:19:50,940
and taken down to a nuclear war just

1563
01:19:56,090 --> 01:19:54,000
because of testosterone people who want

1564
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:56,100
to fight with nukes right right right

1565
01:20:03,830 --> 01:19:59,520
right it's uh

1566
01:20:05,990 --> 01:20:03,840
it's not going to happen I just well I

1567
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:06,000
believe that our ET brothers and sisters

1568
01:20:12,350 --> 01:20:10,080
would step in number one they need us to

1569
01:20:14,030 --> 01:20:12,360
evolve and we can't evolve if we blast

1570
01:20:15,649 --> 01:20:14,040
ourselves back into the Stone Age so I

1571
01:20:17,330 --> 01:20:15,659
just don't believe and the other thing

1572
01:20:20,030 --> 01:20:17,340
is I just think that cooler heads are

1573
01:20:24,290 --> 01:20:20,040
going to Prevail well may I ask you a

1574
01:20:26,870 --> 01:20:24,300
question that bothers me sure why do you

1575
01:20:29,890 --> 01:20:26,880
think over the last 45

1576
01:20:33,169 --> 01:20:29,900
000 years when Neanderthal

1577
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:33,179
crossfaded to Chrome onion Homo sapiens

1578
01:20:38,990 --> 01:20:36,719
sapien and now we have Homo sapiens

1579
01:20:43,250 --> 01:20:39,000
sapien that is evolving

1580
01:20:45,950 --> 01:20:43,260
and now we are at 2023 and we are the

1581
01:20:49,610 --> 01:20:45,960
current crop of chromanian homo sapiens

1582
01:20:51,050 --> 01:20:49,620
sapien why during that whole period of

1583
01:20:53,209 --> 01:20:51,060
the last 45

1584
01:20:54,709 --> 01:20:53,219
000 years

1585
01:20:59,030 --> 01:20:54,719
why

1586
01:21:03,350 --> 01:20:59,040
we're humans kept separated

1587
01:21:07,810 --> 01:21:03,360
from the truth of a conscious vast

1588
01:21:12,169 --> 01:21:07,820
Universe filled with other life forms

1589
01:21:15,770 --> 01:21:12,179
yeah what was to be gained by power

1590
01:21:19,010 --> 01:21:15,780
Brokers yes were ETS like the Anunnaki

1591
01:21:22,130 --> 01:21:19,020
on this planet right mixing and matching

1592
01:21:25,490 --> 01:21:22,140
DNA creating a whole bunch of different

1593
01:21:29,450 --> 01:21:25,500
species and when they made kramanian

1594
01:21:32,810 --> 01:21:29,460
Homo sapiens sapien somebody decided

1595
01:21:37,130 --> 01:21:32,820
they are not to know anything about

1596
01:21:40,010 --> 01:21:37,140
other life forms they will look at us as

1597
01:21:42,649 --> 01:21:40,020
Angels they will look at us as something

1598
01:21:46,430 --> 01:21:42,659
that is not Earthly

1599
01:21:49,850 --> 01:21:46,440
and once that began we are now the

1600
01:21:52,010 --> 01:21:49,860
inheritors of a very strange editing all

1601
01:21:56,450 --> 01:21:52,020
of the history of humanity

1602
01:21:59,570 --> 01:21:56,460
why were we never told then and why is

1603
01:22:02,750 --> 01:21:59,580
it so difficult now to just tell what

1604
01:22:06,110 --> 01:22:02,760
seems like an obvious truth yeah the

1605
01:22:10,370 --> 01:22:06,120
universe is full of life it's a great

1606
01:22:12,410 --> 01:22:10,380
question but I don't agree with you and

1607
01:22:16,130 --> 01:22:12,420
let me and so I'll answer the question

1608
01:22:20,990 --> 01:22:16,140
and let me explain all right

1609
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:21,000
um I believe that until very recently in

1610
01:22:27,290 --> 01:22:24,480
the last couple of thousand years uh and

1611
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:27,300
probably the last hundred years but up

1612
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,000
until that point I think that we got

1613
01:22:35,810 --> 01:22:32,159
along I I don't think that there were

1614
01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:35,820
any barriers between us and E.T and the

1615
01:22:40,669 --> 01:22:38,880
reason is this if you go back to uh five

1616
01:22:42,770 --> 01:22:40,679
thousand years ago Linda three thousand

1617
01:22:45,950 --> 01:22:42,780
years ago and

1618
01:22:49,250 --> 01:22:45,960
um you uh have your little village

1619
01:22:51,470 --> 01:22:49,260
and somebody comes over from another

1620
01:22:55,310 --> 01:22:51,480
Village that you've never seen before

1621
01:22:58,910 --> 01:22:55,320
and they make the 50 mile Trek you have

1622
01:23:00,830 --> 01:22:58,920
met somebody new a new culture and and

1623
01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:00,840
that's what and when something came out

1624
01:23:07,729 --> 01:23:05,520
of the sky it wasn't uh from space it

1625
01:23:09,649 --> 01:23:07,739
wasn't ET it was just somebody new to

1626
01:23:11,570 --> 01:23:09,659
meet and I don't think that there were

1627
01:23:15,410 --> 01:23:11,580
barriers there I don't think that there

1628
01:23:17,450 --> 01:23:15,420
was any angst it was just uh something

1629
01:23:21,890 --> 01:23:17,460
new and everybody was discovering stuff

1630
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:21,900
it was only until very recently where

1631
01:23:28,490 --> 01:23:24,719
this blockade of knowledge has started

1632
01:23:30,530 --> 01:23:28,500
and I would I would probably be very

1633
01:23:34,729 --> 01:23:30,540
confident in saying that it started in

1634
01:23:37,390 --> 01:23:34,739
1947 and long before that Hitler was

1635
01:23:39,950 --> 01:23:37,400
talking about alde Baron

1636
01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:39,960
extraterrestrials helping him in the 30s

1637
01:23:44,930 --> 01:23:42,960
yeah but he wasn't covering it up he

1638
01:23:47,510 --> 01:23:44,940
wasn't no I think they were well

1639
01:23:50,270 --> 01:23:47,520
possibly but what I'm I'm just talking

1640
01:23:53,510 --> 01:23:50,280
about the timeline okay so I'm just

1641
01:23:54,950 --> 01:23:53,520
saying just until very recently

1642
01:23:56,090 --> 01:23:54,960
um this is something I think that before

1643
01:23:57,890 --> 01:23:56,100
then

1644
01:24:00,830 --> 01:23:57,900
now I don't think that there was a big

1645
01:24:04,850 --> 01:24:00,840
deal when the when the when the

1646
01:24:08,209 --> 01:24:04,860
Nuremberg woodcuts were done right was

1647
01:24:09,950 --> 01:24:08,219
there a big freak out on that no no I

1648
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:09,960
just think I don't know that anybody

1649
01:24:15,890 --> 01:24:13,440
knows exactly what happened to produce

1650
01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:15,900
that wood cut but let me ask you do you

1651
01:24:19,729 --> 01:24:18,719
think that what we have gotten in carved

1652
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:19,739
Stone

1653
01:24:25,390 --> 01:24:23,760
uh with the language of the Annunaki and

1654
01:24:30,050 --> 01:24:25,400
the Sumerians

1655
01:24:33,130 --> 01:24:30,060
the description carved in stone is that

1656
01:24:35,870 --> 01:24:33,140
Inky and enlil

1657
01:24:40,729 --> 01:24:35,880
and I knew

1658
01:24:44,930 --> 01:24:40,739
they were and positioned themselves as

1659
01:24:49,010 --> 01:24:44,940
controlling Gods that's right and no

1660
01:24:52,430 --> 01:24:49,020
humans they they argued about the poor

1661
01:24:56,830 --> 01:24:52,440
chattel humans and remember it was that

1662
01:25:01,130 --> 01:24:56,840
they the humans were uh not useful they

1663
01:25:04,669 --> 01:25:01,140
and Leo wanted to destroy humans and

1664
01:25:07,970 --> 01:25:04,679
Inky ends up arguing and that is the

1665
01:25:10,729 --> 01:25:07,980
so-called famous war that might have

1666
01:25:14,390 --> 01:25:10,739
produced the trenetite glass in the

1667
01:25:16,610 --> 01:25:14,400
Sahara and parts of India that might

1668
01:25:20,330 --> 01:25:16,620
relate to something that was releasing

1669
01:25:23,450 --> 01:25:20,340
like an atomic bomb uh back in the time

1670
01:25:26,450 --> 01:25:23,460
of the Anunnaki and the Very fact that

1671
01:25:28,130 --> 01:25:26,460
there would be such a war between enki

1672
01:25:31,250 --> 01:25:28,140
and and Leo

1673
01:25:34,370 --> 01:25:31,260
about humans

1674
01:25:37,490 --> 01:25:34,380
then it seems to me they were basically

1675
01:25:40,610 --> 01:25:37,500
saying we don't want the humans to know

1676
01:25:43,370 --> 01:25:40,620
us and what we are our level we just

1677
01:25:45,890 --> 01:25:43,380
want the humans to do the work for us

1678
01:25:49,430 --> 01:25:45,900
that we need them to do yeah but I don't

1679
01:25:52,130 --> 01:25:49,440
think it was a cover-up and uh they

1680
01:25:54,830 --> 01:25:52,140
certainly created us and if you read in

1681
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:54,840
in one of sitchin's books

1682
01:26:00,169 --> 01:25:57,120
um where he translates one of the

1683
01:26:03,770 --> 01:26:00,179
Sumerian Tablets it says right there we

1684
01:26:06,430 --> 01:26:03,780
are going to modify the DNA so we could

1685
01:26:08,930 --> 01:26:06,440
have Linda Moulton Howe in the year

1686
01:26:11,870 --> 01:26:08,940
2023. it's right there it's on a

1687
01:26:15,290 --> 01:26:11,880
Sumerian Stone in of form writing

1688
01:26:18,649 --> 01:26:15,300
but but see here the thing I still want

1689
01:26:22,129 --> 01:26:18,659
to meet the ETS that are interacting

1690
01:26:25,550 --> 01:26:22,139
with this planet but but Linda um I I

1691
01:26:29,209 --> 01:26:25,560
don't think I I think history is going

1692
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:29,219
to look back and and show that you and I

1693
01:26:40,430 --> 01:26:34,560
and others were right in that in that

1694
01:26:42,830 --> 01:26:40,440
um the uh the age of us which let's say

1695
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:42,840
the modern version of us is 200 000

1696
01:26:45,530 --> 01:26:43,920
years old right that's what

1697
01:26:48,229 --> 01:26:45,540
anthropologists are going to suggest

1698
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:48,239
today that we just appeared 200 000

1699
01:26:53,689 --> 01:26:50,880
years ago but no no no in terms of

1700
01:26:56,270 --> 01:26:53,699
Neanderthal which was before Chrome

1701
01:26:59,090 --> 01:26:56,280
onion homo sapien sapien that you can

1702
01:27:01,490 --> 01:26:59,100
look this up the Crossfade in

1703
01:27:03,890 --> 01:27:01,500
Neanderthal to Chrome onion homo sapien

1704
01:27:07,129 --> 01:27:03,900
sapien was approximately 45 000 years

1705
01:27:09,830 --> 01:27:07,139
ago yes that humanoid form that's

1706
01:27:12,050 --> 01:27:09,840
correct but that goes back longer that

1707
01:27:14,570 --> 01:27:12,060
that's that's correct but that's not my

1708
01:27:18,770 --> 01:27:14,580
point so let me get to my point then you

1709
01:27:22,490 --> 01:27:18,780
respond which is this Linda that

1710
01:27:24,050 --> 01:27:22,500
um this number this 200 000 year number

1711
01:27:26,270 --> 01:27:24,060
that

1712
01:27:27,709 --> 01:27:26,280
um is is thrown around I think a little

1713
01:27:30,169 --> 01:27:27,719
bit too freely

1714
01:27:32,570 --> 01:27:30,179
and then you turn around and you read

1715
01:27:36,770 --> 01:27:32,580
the work of sitchin and what is on those

1716
01:27:38,990 --> 01:27:36,780
Sumerian Tablets the timelines match and

1717
01:27:42,410 --> 01:27:39,000
I don't think that that is a coincidence

1718
01:27:44,450 --> 01:27:42,420
I I don't and I don't have a better

1719
01:27:47,570 --> 01:27:44,460
explanation

1720
01:27:51,830 --> 01:27:47,580
um where science wants to say that it

1721
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:51,840
was all luck and and lightning struck a

1722
01:27:57,110 --> 01:27:54,719
crystal in a creek and and DNA just

1723
01:28:00,530 --> 01:27:57,120
formed you know no no no that's not

1724
01:28:03,649 --> 01:28:00,540
right it's not true at all exactly and

1725
01:28:06,649 --> 01:28:03,659
it's and so and I remember hearing

1726
01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:06,659
Richard Dawkins I guess I just dropped

1727
01:28:10,790 --> 01:28:07,679
his name

1728
01:28:13,610 --> 01:28:10,800
say those words and I'm thinking to

1729
01:28:17,270 --> 01:28:13,620
myself how can you try to pretend to be

1730
01:28:19,790 --> 01:28:17,280
an intellectual a scientist

1731
01:28:23,090 --> 01:28:19,800
um somebody that's a forward thinker and

1732
01:28:28,370 --> 01:28:23,100
say something as stupid as that that it

1733
01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:28,380
was just luck no the odds of does it

1734
01:28:35,050 --> 01:28:31,199
does he even understand how many digits

1735
01:28:37,790 --> 01:28:35,060
we're talking about of of luck of of

1736
01:28:41,810 --> 01:28:37,800
odds of something like that happening

1737
01:28:44,870 --> 01:28:41,820
just by chance no there's something else

1738
01:28:48,290 --> 01:28:44,880
intervened I don't know what intervened

1739
01:28:51,110 --> 01:28:48,300
but something did and it's that simple

1740
01:28:52,669 --> 01:28:51,120
and so when we go back to those

1741
01:28:55,729 --> 01:28:52,679
um I think that's part of what the

1742
01:28:59,330 --> 01:28:55,739
cover-up may be that if if it is

1743
01:29:01,850 --> 01:28:59,340
disclosed if E.T comes down Linda and

1744
01:29:03,950 --> 01:29:01,860
and the ship lands and they March down

1745
01:29:06,530 --> 01:29:03,960
and they go okay where's Linda Moulton

1746
01:29:08,689 --> 01:29:06,540
how we need to talk to her and so you

1747
01:29:10,970 --> 01:29:08,699
know they you step up and they go okay

1748
01:29:12,770 --> 01:29:10,980
so this is actually what happened this

1749
01:29:15,410 --> 01:29:12,780
this this and the the government's going

1750
01:29:18,290 --> 01:29:15,420
to have to answer for that because they

1751
01:29:20,870 --> 01:29:18,300
probably know all of this oh of course

1752
01:29:24,530 --> 01:29:20,880
they do and this is you're going right

1753
01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:24,540
to the the whole reason cover-ups for so

1754
01:29:31,729 --> 01:29:28,260
long and why all of these uh poor guys

1755
01:29:35,149 --> 01:29:31,739
like Smith Jones you keep your mouth

1756
01:29:38,050 --> 01:29:35,159
shut you never if you do we will take

1757
01:29:41,930 --> 01:29:38,060
your uh bank account you will never have

1758
01:29:44,270 --> 01:29:41,940
all these threats to all these people is

1759
01:29:46,430 --> 01:29:44,280
because the government of the United

1760
01:29:49,550 --> 01:29:46,440
States was not in control of anything

1761
01:29:51,830 --> 01:29:49,560
that the UFO et's were doing they caught

1762
01:29:53,810 --> 01:29:51,840
on that there were abductions they knew

1763
01:29:55,669 --> 01:29:53,820
that there were animal mutilations they

1764
01:29:57,590 --> 01:29:55,679
knew that there were all kinds of

1765
01:30:00,770 --> 01:29:57,600
interactions going on with the Earth

1766
01:30:03,350 --> 01:30:00,780
that they couldn't control they couldn't

1767
01:30:05,450 --> 01:30:03,360
stop that they would have to introduce

1768
01:30:08,270 --> 01:30:05,460
the ETS

1769
01:30:10,070 --> 01:30:08,280
if if they chose at the time when they

1770
01:30:11,570 --> 01:30:10,080
realized that animal mutilations and

1771
01:30:15,430 --> 01:30:11,580
human abductions and a whole lot of

1772
01:30:19,250 --> 01:30:15,440
other things were the work of the ETS

1773
01:30:21,290 --> 01:30:19,260
they didn't want to tell humans that and

1774
01:30:23,209 --> 01:30:21,300
here is where you get to where things

1775
01:30:26,570 --> 01:30:23,219
are right now today

1776
01:30:27,590 --> 01:30:26,580
what is wrong with telling the whole

1777
01:30:31,669 --> 01:30:27,600
truth

1778
01:30:35,270 --> 01:30:31,679
as an evolution and not saying yes we

1779
01:30:38,470 --> 01:30:35,280
knew x y and z a hundred years ago but

1780
01:30:43,070 --> 01:30:38,480
we couldn't understand how it related to

1781
01:30:45,950 --> 01:30:43,080
ABC and today they could open up so many

1782
01:30:48,250 --> 01:30:45,960
facets that might even relate to new

1783
01:30:52,490 --> 01:30:48,260
energy sources and all kinds of things

1784
01:30:54,770 --> 01:30:52,500
that they keep hiding because if they

1785
01:30:56,870 --> 01:30:54,780
bring them out then they would have to

1786
01:30:59,390 --> 01:30:56,880
introduce the ETS and they've been

1787
01:31:01,550 --> 01:30:59,400
trying to have their cake and eat it too

1788
01:31:04,070 --> 01:31:01,560
they want all the advanced technology

1789
01:31:06,649 --> 01:31:04,080
they want the advanced weapons they want

1790
01:31:10,010 --> 01:31:06,659
the propulsion system we're going on

1791
01:31:12,229 --> 01:31:10,020
Craft they can go out 50 light years and

1792
01:31:14,330 --> 01:31:12,239
that we've had a secret space force

1793
01:31:16,629 --> 01:31:14,340
that's been doing that

1794
01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:16,639
and if they tell everybody

1795
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:20,400
the whole truth some people think it's

1796
01:31:25,669 --> 01:31:23,040
too much of a shock to the human system

1797
01:31:29,629 --> 01:31:25,679
I argue

1798
01:31:32,330 --> 01:31:29,639
truth in and of itself is healing yeah

1799
01:31:35,570 --> 01:31:32,340
yeah yeah I I we're definitely at that

1800
01:31:38,629 --> 01:31:35,580
point now I think that most of us as our

1801
01:31:41,629 --> 01:31:38,639
ability to understand uh continues to

1802
01:31:44,930 --> 01:31:41,639
grow right that I think most of the

1803
01:31:46,910 --> 01:31:44,940
planet knows that there is I'm going to

1804
01:31:49,910 --> 01:31:46,920
use a bad word there's a ton of

1805
01:31:52,189 --> 01:31:49,920
Life out there right and it's it's all

1806
01:31:53,629 --> 01:31:52,199
over the place Linda and here's just so

1807
01:31:56,930 --> 01:31:53,639
the universe is teeming with

1808
01:32:00,590 --> 01:31:56,940
Consciousness it is it it absolutely is

1809
01:32:02,330 --> 01:32:00,600
and and then this is the third story I

1810
01:32:06,350 --> 01:32:02,340
wanted to bring up to you talk about

1811
01:32:08,590 --> 01:32:06,360
exciting times uh as as you are aware

1812
01:32:13,450 --> 01:32:08,600
two days ago

1813
01:32:19,550 --> 01:32:13,460
uh uh it was uh the the Japanese

1814
01:32:22,970 --> 01:32:19,560
uh return of an asteroids uh

1815
01:32:25,370 --> 01:32:22,980
um uh I'm gonna say uh scoops

1816
01:32:29,209 --> 01:32:25,380
um produced

1817
01:32:34,729 --> 01:32:29,219
amino acids and not only that niacin

1818
01:32:38,030 --> 01:32:34,739
vitamin B3 and we are talking about the

1819
01:32:41,149 --> 01:32:38,040
ingredients that are needed for RNA RNA

1820
01:32:44,689 --> 01:32:41,159
being the red-headed stepchild of DNA we

1821
01:32:47,689 --> 01:32:44,699
don't talk about RNA enough RNA is just

1822
01:32:52,390 --> 01:32:47,699
as complex and as crazy as and as

1823
01:32:56,510 --> 01:32:52,400
important as DNA in that RNA gives DNA

1824
01:33:00,350 --> 01:32:56,520
its instructions right and and so with

1825
01:33:02,149 --> 01:33:00,360
that RNA there's no us but what this has

1826
01:33:07,370 --> 01:33:02,159
revealed and we're going to do it again

1827
01:33:09,110 --> 01:33:07,380
in September when bennu Hayabusa 2 from

1828
01:33:12,950 --> 01:33:09,120
the asteroid bennu that'll be in

1829
01:33:16,189 --> 01:33:12,960
September and we've already known uh and

1830
01:33:19,610 --> 01:33:16,199
have found uh complex sugars is that

1831
01:33:22,490 --> 01:33:19,620
simple sugars on meteorites before but

1832
01:33:24,590 --> 01:33:22,500
now it turns out it's turning out that

1833
01:33:28,070 --> 01:33:24,600
if we go out to an asteroid we're gonna

1834
01:33:30,169 --> 01:33:28,080
find the building blocks of life on

1835
01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:30,179
these asteroids that are impacting

1836
01:33:35,930 --> 01:33:33,600
planets throughout the Universe and I

1837
01:33:37,669 --> 01:33:35,940
would argue Linda this is some of the

1838
01:33:39,530 --> 01:33:37,679
biggest news

1839
01:33:42,649 --> 01:33:39,540
um in the history of mankind but number

1840
01:33:46,430 --> 01:33:42,659
two I think that it represents

1841
01:33:50,149 --> 01:33:46,440
um that DNA is as universal in the

1842
01:33:52,610 --> 01:33:50,159
universe as Consciousness that these

1843
01:33:56,629 --> 01:33:52,620
simple things are deposited everywhere

1844
01:34:00,229 --> 01:33:56,639
and that DNA would be the same at in

1845
01:34:01,850 --> 01:34:00,239
Zeta reticuli as it is here in our Milky

1846
01:34:04,550 --> 01:34:01,860
Way and certainly in our solar system

1847
01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:04,560
and I think it's a very very big deal

1848
01:34:10,910 --> 01:34:07,440
and a big announcement well and it's

1849
01:34:15,590 --> 01:34:10,920
like a facet of where we started about

1850
01:34:18,950 --> 01:34:15,600
the web being used to aim at a planet in

1851
01:34:23,390 --> 01:34:18,960
Trappist and talk about the atmosphere

1852
01:34:25,390 --> 01:34:23,400
of that planet a watery planet and then

1853
01:34:28,310 --> 01:34:25,400
and breaking news

1854
01:34:31,610 --> 01:34:28,320
biological signature what is going to be

1855
01:34:36,229 --> 01:34:31,620
the definition of those words biological

1856
01:34:37,610 --> 01:34:36,239
signature and so one story and what

1857
01:34:41,270 --> 01:34:37,620
you're talking about

1858
01:34:44,410 --> 01:34:41,280
that they're kind of facets of where we

1859
01:34:48,110 --> 01:34:44,420
could be leading now that piece by piece

1860
01:34:51,050 --> 01:34:48,120
Discovery after discovery with the web

1861
01:34:52,729 --> 01:34:51,060
and what we are doing with uh exploring

1862
01:34:56,870 --> 01:34:52,739
and asteroids

1863
01:34:58,729 --> 01:34:56,880
that could be what will be used for that

1864
01:35:01,729 --> 01:34:58,739
big headline we're not alone which is

1865
01:35:03,290 --> 01:35:01,739
what I hope and it's the question on the

1866
01:35:07,250 --> 01:35:03,300
timeline right now

1867
01:35:09,830 --> 01:35:07,260
do they do the power Brokers feel that

1868
01:35:14,930 --> 01:35:09,840
this would be a good time in April of

1869
01:35:16,790 --> 01:35:14,940
2023 in a sense to kind of deflect the

1870
01:35:20,510 --> 01:35:16,800
world and the energy and the attention

1871
01:35:25,030 --> 01:35:20,520
that seems to be building up into the

1872
01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:25,040
China and Russia and the United States

1873
01:35:32,810 --> 01:35:29,520
again almost on a wharf footing would

1874
01:35:36,229 --> 01:35:32,820
this announcement tend to start reducing

1875
01:35:40,490 --> 01:35:36,239
that because news would then start going

1876
01:35:43,970 --> 01:35:40,500
more and more into well what are UFOs

1877
01:35:46,250 --> 01:35:43,980
are there extraterrestrials here are

1878
01:35:48,890 --> 01:35:46,260
there extraterrestrials in a base inside

1879
01:35:50,590 --> 01:35:48,900
of the Ganymede moon in Jupiter which

1880
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:50,600
there is

1881
01:35:56,770 --> 01:35:55,440
it's like maybe this could release some

1882
01:35:59,689 --> 01:35:56,780
of that horrible

1883
01:36:03,290 --> 01:35:59,699
intensifying energy that is uh building

1884
01:36:06,649 --> 01:36:03,300
toward war and that this alone this year

1885
01:36:10,430 --> 01:36:06,659
if we can get the this news out into

1886
01:36:14,270 --> 01:36:10,440
world headlines could maybe give people

1887
01:36:17,810 --> 01:36:14,280
everywhere a kind of new spring

1888
01:36:19,070 --> 01:36:17,820
it kind of reminds me and and I agree

1889
01:36:22,430 --> 01:36:19,080
with you

1890
01:36:25,669 --> 01:36:22,440
um and and I'm going to get to my number

1891
01:36:28,010 --> 01:36:25,679
four here in just a second it reminds me

1892
01:36:32,209 --> 01:36:28,020
of Ronald Reagan's speech at the U.N

1893
01:36:34,430 --> 01:36:32,219
right and and I uh I'm not talking about

1894
01:36:38,930 --> 01:36:34,440
an alien invasion of course but I am

1895
01:36:42,410 --> 01:36:38,940
certainly uh referring to something off

1896
01:36:44,750 --> 01:36:42,420
planet that would force us into

1897
01:36:47,330 --> 01:36:44,760
forgetting about our differences and our

1898
01:36:49,850 --> 01:36:47,340
Grievances and bring us together as

1899
01:36:53,090 --> 01:36:49,860
earthlings and realize that you know

1900
01:36:56,330 --> 01:36:53,100
what we are here together and we are

1901
01:36:58,669 --> 01:36:56,340
representing do we really want I mean

1902
01:37:02,629 --> 01:36:58,679
honestly for

1903
01:37:05,810 --> 01:37:02,639
um E.T to show up here and see us

1904
01:37:08,050 --> 01:37:05,820
literally firing bows and arrows at each

1905
01:37:10,990 --> 01:37:08,060
other I mean

1906
01:37:13,910 --> 01:37:11,000
destroying this gorgeous wonderful

1907
01:37:15,890 --> 01:37:13,920
laboratory Planet I'm embarrassed with

1908
01:37:17,390 --> 01:37:15,900
that you know how it is when you have

1909
01:37:21,350 --> 01:37:17,400
people come over to your house well

1910
01:37:25,010 --> 01:37:21,360
maybe not you but people come over and

1911
01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:25,020
they surprise visit and you've got dirty

1912
01:37:29,689 --> 01:37:28,080
dishes in the sink right and and how

1913
01:37:31,970 --> 01:37:29,699
embarrassed you well that's what I I'm

1914
01:37:34,310 --> 01:37:31,980
kind of embarrassed for our planet right

1915
01:37:37,129 --> 01:37:34,320
now that I know that we're much better

1916
01:37:39,770 --> 01:37:37,139
than this I I just know that I know that

1917
01:37:42,169 --> 01:37:39,780
deep down we're all pretty much good

1918
01:37:46,129 --> 01:37:42,179
people there's a lot of uh there are bad

1919
01:37:49,010 --> 01:37:46,139
apples everywhere but by and large as

1920
01:37:52,790 --> 01:37:49,020
human beings were pretty damn cool Linda

1921
01:37:54,590 --> 01:37:52,800
we really are and I'm just embarrassed

1922
01:37:57,530 --> 01:37:54,600
I'm embarrassed for us that we've got

1923
01:37:59,330 --> 01:37:57,540
some some yahoos on this planet that

1924
01:38:02,030 --> 01:37:59,340
really want to make us look you know

1925
01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:02,040
like doofus and we're not we're not I I

1926
01:38:07,850 --> 01:38:04,800
just don't think we're that way well

1927
01:38:10,370 --> 01:38:07,860
Reagan you have to also add this because

1928
01:38:12,350 --> 01:38:10,380
this is the context in which he spoke at

1929
01:38:16,850 --> 01:38:12,360
the un uh

1930
01:38:18,189 --> 01:38:16,860
he had been given a briefing by his new

1931
01:38:20,810 --> 01:38:18,199
CIA

1932
01:38:24,590 --> 01:38:20,820
director Casey

1933
01:38:29,570 --> 01:38:24,600
at Camp David in March after he had been

1934
01:38:32,270 --> 01:38:29,580
elected about UFOs and ETS and I've done

1935
01:38:34,250 --> 01:38:32,280
a whole presentation about it and have

1936
01:38:38,030 --> 01:38:34,260
talked with people I've talked with one

1937
01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:38,040
man who uh he knew a colleague who was

1938
01:38:42,070 --> 01:38:39,840
there at this meeting and said you're

1939
01:38:44,450 --> 01:38:42,080
reporting the truth

1940
01:38:48,050 --> 01:38:44,460
the context

1941
01:38:51,010 --> 01:38:48,060
of giving Reagan information about the

1942
01:38:54,350 --> 01:38:51,020
five different types of ETS

1943
01:38:58,510 --> 01:38:54,360
included that trotoloid the fifth and

1944
01:39:04,189 --> 01:39:00,290
t-r-a-n-t-t-r-a-n-t-a-l-o-i-d chronoloid

1945
01:39:08,510 --> 01:39:04,199
Define for Reagan as a tremendous threat

1946
01:39:11,750 --> 01:39:08,520
an insect at Epsilon eridani only 10.5

1947
01:39:14,750 --> 01:39:11,760
light years from Earth very close and

1948
01:39:16,669 --> 01:39:14,760
that these insects they had learned from

1949
01:39:19,629 --> 01:39:16,679
other

1950
01:39:23,930 --> 01:39:19,639
ETS that they were dealing with the

1951
01:39:26,090 --> 01:39:23,940
arcoloids and the quad Lloyds and others

1952
01:39:29,390 --> 01:39:26,100
that would include the nordics and the

1953
01:39:31,370 --> 01:39:29,400
tall whites that these insects are a

1954
01:39:33,950 --> 01:39:31,380
threat that the insects are a threat

1955
01:39:38,990 --> 01:39:33,960
everywhere and that they wanted Reagan

1956
01:39:41,030 --> 01:39:39,000
to know about this ET threat and then

1957
01:39:44,570 --> 01:39:41,040
it appears that

1958
01:39:47,570 --> 01:39:44,580
since that briefing with Reagan somebody

1959
01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:47,580
made a decision that everything having

1960
01:39:52,189 --> 01:39:50,400
to do with UFOs and ETS and other

1961
01:39:55,010 --> 01:39:52,199
threats and all of it had to go

1962
01:39:58,129 --> 01:39:55,020
underground and not be discussed but he

1963
01:40:02,750 --> 01:39:58,139
gave that speech at the U.N and he was

1964
01:40:06,290 --> 01:40:02,760
referring to it if we had a threat from

1965
01:40:08,030 --> 01:40:06,300
outer space to this planet wouldn't it

1966
01:40:10,850 --> 01:40:08,040
bring us all together

1967
01:40:13,430 --> 01:40:10,860
we're not talking about just the insects

1968
01:40:15,530 --> 01:40:13,440
we're talking about a universe that is

1969
01:40:18,050 --> 01:40:15,540
teeming with life that there might be a

1970
01:40:20,330 --> 01:40:18,060
hundred and sixty eight different solar

1971
01:40:23,629 --> 01:40:20,340
system civilizations at just this end of

1972
01:40:26,390 --> 01:40:23,639
the Milky Way galaxy and if only one of

1973
01:40:28,610 --> 01:40:26,400
them if the insects are the ones that

1974
01:40:31,629 --> 01:40:28,620
everybody else is worried about

1975
01:40:35,270 --> 01:40:31,639
I've been told by two people who have

1976
01:40:36,530 --> 01:40:35,280
worked in the Pentagon and they have

1977
01:40:38,330 --> 01:40:36,540
said

1978
01:40:42,410 --> 01:40:38,340
as long as

1979
01:40:44,689 --> 01:40:42,420
the tall whites and at least one of the

1980
01:40:46,729 --> 01:40:44,699
types of nordics

1981
01:40:49,490 --> 01:40:46,739
they are so advanced

1982
01:40:52,310 --> 01:40:49,500
as long as they have taken a vested

1983
01:40:56,390 --> 01:40:52,320
interest in helping us

1984
01:40:59,830 --> 01:40:56,400
the insects are not going to defeat them

1985
01:41:02,870 --> 01:40:59,840
that we already have a protection

1986
01:41:03,770 --> 01:41:02,880
why can't that be announced to the

1987
01:41:07,370 --> 01:41:03,780
planet

1988
01:41:09,950 --> 01:41:07,380
as one complex introduction just as

1989
01:41:12,530 --> 01:41:09,960
Reagan said in the U.N

1990
01:41:16,430 --> 01:41:12,540
that we have allies

1991
01:41:17,930 --> 01:41:16,440
we had allies before we ever were

1992
01:41:20,510 --> 01:41:17,940
publicly told

1993
01:41:23,450 --> 01:41:20,520
on Earth the truth yeah that's right

1994
01:41:26,209 --> 01:41:23,460
that's right and and and he that the

1995
01:41:28,729 --> 01:41:26,219
speech at the U.N that wasn't the only

1996
01:41:31,390 --> 01:41:28,739
time Ronald Reagan gave that speech he

1997
01:41:33,890 --> 01:41:31,400
gave it right 10 times

1998
01:41:36,770 --> 01:41:33,900
oh I didn't know that I knew of three

1999
01:41:40,970 --> 01:41:36,780
eight oh I just taught Linda Moulton

2000
01:41:42,950 --> 01:41:40,980
house something yeah right but uh before

2001
01:41:46,010 --> 01:41:42,960
um I let you go what a great celebration

2002
01:41:48,050 --> 01:41:46,020
tonight commercial free and just a

2003
01:41:50,530 --> 01:41:48,060
conversation uh between friends amazing

2004
01:41:54,010 --> 01:41:50,540
conversation Linda uh and I can't

2005
01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:54,020
champagne's on me next week

2006
01:42:00,109 --> 01:41:57,600
and let's hope you guys for all of us

2007
01:42:02,030 --> 01:42:00,119
for the whole planet for all eight

2008
01:42:05,030 --> 01:42:02,040
billion Souls

2009
01:42:08,090 --> 01:42:05,040
that there is a decision

2010
01:42:12,530 --> 01:42:08,100
I hope it's April 23rd

2011
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:12,540
that that the government is going for if

2012
01:42:18,290 --> 01:42:14,400
they're just going to announce

2013
01:42:20,570 --> 01:42:18,300
Webb is showing a biological signature

2014
01:42:24,250 --> 01:42:20,580
on the fourth planet of the Trappist one

2015
01:42:27,950 --> 01:42:24,260
system seven Earth-like planets and

2016
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:27,960
that's the open that's the beginning

2017
01:42:32,750 --> 01:42:30,480
I bet I got to tell everybody I asked

2018
01:42:34,490 --> 01:42:32,760
Linda out on a date earlier today she

2019
01:42:39,470 --> 01:42:34,500
turned me down

2020
01:42:45,410 --> 01:42:43,010
jim I've got to uh my time I have to

2021
01:42:47,870 --> 01:42:45,420
focus on all the people who want to tell

2022
01:42:49,970 --> 01:42:47,880
me their first hand stories don't throw

2023
01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:49,980
me under the bus

2024
01:42:54,470 --> 01:42:52,080
you turn me down but Linda Okay so we've

2025
01:42:57,790 --> 01:42:54,480
been talking about bio signatures now

2026
01:43:02,570 --> 01:42:57,800
let's talk about technical signatures

2027
01:43:06,169 --> 01:43:02,580
and James Webb is set up for this too as

2028
01:43:09,890 --> 01:43:06,179
well now looking through an exoplanet's

2029
01:43:13,729 --> 01:43:09,900
atmosphere and observing and how this is

2030
01:43:18,649 --> 01:43:13,739
done this is done with the the the light

2031
01:43:21,470 --> 01:43:18,659
from its uh Sun its star and it it it

2032
01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:21,480
the atmosphere gets illuminated and we

2033
01:43:26,510 --> 01:43:23,760
we figure out the chemicals and the

2034
01:43:28,669 --> 01:43:26,520
chemistry that is there and and we can

2035
01:43:31,669 --> 01:43:28,679
also see clouds by the way there was a

2036
01:43:35,629 --> 01:43:31,679
two days ago they announced they've they

2037
01:43:38,450 --> 01:43:35,639
have seen clouds yes on an exoplanet I'm

2038
01:43:41,930 --> 01:43:38,460
just like how how okay but anyway

2039
01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:41,940
the ability to look for a technical

2040
01:43:49,129 --> 01:43:46,320
signature is also there do you think

2041
01:43:52,669 --> 01:43:49,139
maybe maybe something in a radio or

2042
01:43:54,649 --> 01:43:52,679
x-ray or terahertz or who knows but it's

2043
01:43:56,810 --> 01:43:54,659
frequencies again that would be

2044
01:43:58,790 --> 01:43:56,820
related to technology well there's that

2045
01:44:00,770 --> 01:43:58,800
and there's the possibility of seeing

2046
01:44:03,890 --> 01:44:00,780
lights on the dark side of a planet from

2047
01:44:06,709 --> 01:44:03,900
an illuminated city right that's right

2048
01:44:10,430 --> 01:44:06,719
these are all very exciting things would

2049
01:44:13,550 --> 01:44:10,440
you if a tech signature

2050
01:44:16,010 --> 01:44:13,560
um now I have been told uh for multiple

2051
01:44:18,649 --> 01:44:16,020
people that work uh with the James Webb

2052
01:44:21,169 --> 01:44:18,659
some of them you know and we both

2053
01:44:24,290 --> 01:44:21,179
communicate with these same sources but

2054
01:44:25,609 --> 01:44:24,300
they have all expressed to me

2055
01:44:27,649 --> 01:44:25,619
um and by the way Linda and I have

2056
01:44:30,649 --> 01:44:27,659
talked about this before I'm going to

2057
01:44:33,649 --> 01:44:30,659
get her response for the audience uh uh

2058
01:44:38,390 --> 01:44:33,659
uh publicly tonight they have all told

2059
01:44:42,229 --> 01:44:38,400
me the same thing that the James Webb uh

2060
01:44:45,229 --> 01:44:42,239
group is international this is not a

2061
01:44:48,169 --> 01:44:45,239
United States thing

2062
01:44:53,030 --> 01:44:48,179
they find a tech signature that they

2063
01:44:55,609 --> 01:44:53,040
find something as as biological that

2064
01:44:57,590 --> 01:44:55,619
would tip the scales that the United

2065
01:45:01,450 --> 01:44:57,600
States won't be able to cover it up and

2066
01:45:04,550 --> 01:45:01,460
that they will go public with this

2067
01:45:06,410 --> 01:45:04,560
do you believe that to be true I don't

2068
01:45:09,410 --> 01:45:06,420
know I think that the political

2069
01:45:12,290 --> 01:45:09,420
fractures on the planet right now are so

2070
01:45:15,109 --> 01:45:12,300
serious in so many directions

2071
01:45:19,729 --> 01:45:15,119
um I I hope that the scientists would

2072
01:45:22,250 --> 01:45:19,739
Prevail for honest honest reporting and

2073
01:45:25,490 --> 01:45:22,260
one thing to keep in mind also

2074
01:45:27,050 --> 01:45:25,500
we have lights in cities on the surface

2075
01:45:30,410 --> 01:45:27,060
of the Earth

2076
01:45:33,229 --> 01:45:30,420
but I know that the tall whites inhabit

2077
01:45:37,129 --> 01:45:33,239
a base that has been described to me as

2078
01:45:39,290 --> 01:45:37,139
amazing inside of Ganymede and there

2079
01:45:41,270 --> 01:45:39,300
have been other sources who have talked

2080
01:45:45,169 --> 01:45:41,280
about how so many

2081
01:45:48,649 --> 01:45:45,179
et's they will have huge bases that are

2082
01:45:51,290 --> 01:45:48,659
inside they have learned how to uh have

2083
01:45:53,990 --> 01:45:51,300
a compatible relationship with a variety

2084
01:45:57,830 --> 01:45:54,000
of planets and moons by being based

2085
01:46:01,010 --> 01:45:57,840
inside which then helps with anything

2086
01:46:03,530 --> 01:46:01,020
that would be incoming whatever the

2087
01:46:08,570 --> 01:46:03,540
relationship with the sun right and so

2088
01:46:11,689 --> 01:46:08,580
it may be that at Trappist maybe one

2089
01:46:14,810 --> 01:46:11,699
piece of one planet that maybe there

2090
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:14,820
would be lights but if there aren't that

2091
01:46:21,709 --> 01:46:17,760
doesn't mean that the planet or planets

2092
01:46:24,590 --> 01:46:21,719
would could have advanced intelligences

2093
01:46:27,770 --> 01:46:24,600
inside of them and it isn't just

2094
01:46:29,830 --> 01:46:27,780
Trappist it's all the solar systems that

2095
01:46:33,350 --> 01:46:29,840
the advanced ETS

2096
01:46:36,050 --> 01:46:33,360
as one man uh told me a long time ago he

2097
01:46:38,390 --> 01:46:36,060
said the way I can explain it to you

2098
01:46:40,729 --> 01:46:38,400
into the way I understand when they

2099
01:46:44,810 --> 01:46:40,739
approach any planet for the first time

2100
01:46:48,109 --> 01:46:44,820
that they have huge gigantic computer

2101
01:46:51,410 --> 01:46:48,119
technology systems that are analyzing

2102
01:46:54,050 --> 01:46:51,420
the new whether it's a moon or a planet

2103
01:46:57,609 --> 01:46:54,060
that they are approaching and that they

2104
01:47:00,770 --> 01:46:57,619
they will be able in this one

2105
01:47:04,129 --> 01:47:00,780
investigatory pass they will know where

2106
01:47:07,550 --> 01:47:04,139
there are huge caverns inside or not

2107
01:47:11,030 --> 01:47:07,560
they will know everything about the

2108
01:47:14,570 --> 01:47:11,040
inside to the outside of the planet or

2109
01:47:17,510 --> 01:47:14,580
the moon because that's how they look

2110
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:17,520
strategically at solar systems and

2111
01:47:22,850 --> 01:47:19,920
that's really important when it comes to

2112
01:47:26,689 --> 01:47:22,860
what are they going to announce uh if it

2113
01:47:29,810 --> 01:47:26,699
is a biological signature and they are

2114
01:47:33,050 --> 01:47:29,820
looking only at the atmosphere of the

2115
01:47:36,350 --> 01:47:33,060
planet that's one level there's going to

2116
01:47:40,310 --> 01:47:36,360
be many other levels and if we would get

2117
01:47:42,649 --> 01:47:40,320
honesty a real honesty from the

2118
01:47:46,430 --> 01:47:42,659
scientists on the whatever their first

2119
01:47:49,850 --> 01:47:46,440
disclosure is it seems to me that would

2120
01:47:52,910 --> 01:47:49,860
set a healthy landscape on which to

2121
01:47:55,430 --> 01:47:52,920
build more and more honest science that

2122
01:47:57,410 --> 01:47:55,440
is my own personal hope if we start

2123
01:48:00,590 --> 01:47:57,420
getting headlines after headlines after

2124
01:48:02,030 --> 01:48:00,600
headlines about biological signatures

2125
01:48:04,910 --> 01:48:02,040
then

2126
01:48:07,850 --> 01:48:04,920
it kind of doesn't it set up like a

2127
01:48:11,689 --> 01:48:07,860
whole new plane of discussion

2128
01:48:13,970 --> 01:48:11,699
and that ETS then come into that as part

2129
01:48:16,729 --> 01:48:13,980
of the evolution of what we are

2130
01:48:19,430 --> 01:48:16,739
discovering with the web telescope and

2131
01:48:22,790 --> 01:48:19,440
to me that has a different feeling than

2132
01:48:26,330 --> 01:48:22,800
cold announcement right not alone in the

2133
01:48:28,990 --> 01:48:26,340
universe well it would give us a reason

2134
01:48:32,290 --> 01:48:29,000
to to be

2135
01:48:36,290 --> 01:48:32,300
it would give us a it would give us hope

2136
01:48:38,990 --> 01:48:36,300
it would give us a reason to look to the

2137
01:48:43,010 --> 01:48:39,000
Future right now

2138
01:48:44,390 --> 01:48:43,020
um with uh the the divisiveness and the

2139
01:48:46,729 --> 01:48:44,400
fighting and the things that we see

2140
01:48:48,950 --> 01:48:46,739
going on in this planet aside from

2141
01:48:51,649 --> 01:48:48,960
actual Wars

2142
01:48:54,649 --> 01:48:51,659
um that that is just because we're a

2143
01:48:59,149 --> 01:48:54,659
little bit bored and we've we've been a

2144
01:49:02,750 --> 01:48:59,159
little Frozen in this period of time we

2145
01:49:06,010 --> 01:49:02,760
depend on a planet in which the majority

2146
01:49:09,410 --> 01:49:06,020
of humans are under the thumbs

2147
01:49:14,450 --> 01:49:09,420
psychologically politically militarily

2148
01:49:16,490 --> 01:49:14,460
of a tiny tiny tiny group of humans that

2149
01:49:19,129 --> 01:49:16,500
are the power Brokers that's right

2150
01:49:22,850 --> 01:49:19,139
that's right that's right it is not a

2151
01:49:27,290 --> 01:49:22,860
fair Planet at this point no and and you

2152
01:49:29,950 --> 01:49:27,300
know obviously uh the entire frigging

2153
01:49:32,590 --> 01:49:29,960
Planet every single country

2154
01:49:34,990 --> 01:49:32,600
completely locked down

2155
01:49:38,990 --> 01:49:35,000
locked in your homes

2156
01:49:41,149 --> 01:49:39,000
is going stir crazy going nuts spending

2157
01:49:43,910 --> 01:49:41,159
way too much time on social media

2158
01:49:47,209 --> 01:49:43,920
picking fights and and I'm talking about

2159
01:49:50,930 --> 01:49:47,219
the globe it wasn't one country it

2160
01:49:52,970 --> 01:49:50,940
wasn't one city it was everybody and you

2161
01:49:56,209 --> 01:49:52,980
talk about pandemic time yeah yeah yeah

2162
01:49:58,430 --> 01:49:56,219
yeah and so uh we we need to come out of

2163
01:50:02,390 --> 01:49:58,440
this on the other side with a better

2164
01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:02,400
understanding of of not only uh how to

2165
01:50:07,609 --> 01:50:05,040
try to start ignoring borders but

2166
01:50:10,510 --> 01:50:07,619
differences and things and and and and

2167
01:50:13,370 --> 01:50:10,520
all of The Angst let's get rid of it

2168
01:50:15,410 --> 01:50:13,380
we have an opportunity here Linda and

2169
01:50:18,830 --> 01:50:15,420
what would what would kick start all of

2170
01:50:20,649 --> 01:50:18,840
that can I answer here we're not alone

2171
01:50:23,870 --> 01:50:20,659
in the universe

2172
01:50:25,550 --> 01:50:23,880
let me insert here what I've always

2173
01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:25,560
thought was one of the most powerful

2174
01:50:34,010 --> 01:50:28,800
paragraphs graphs that any abductee ever

2175
01:50:35,689 --> 01:50:34,020
said to me and this was a scientist uh

2176
01:50:40,970 --> 01:50:35,699
on the East Coast

2177
01:50:43,010 --> 01:50:40,980
who was pulled up out of his father's

2178
01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:43,020
car the whole family was in the car the

2179
01:50:49,250 --> 01:50:46,800
father was driving uh the uh son was in

2180
01:50:52,270 --> 01:50:49,260
the passenger seat in the front and the

2181
01:50:56,510 --> 01:50:52,280
back was his mother uh the driver's wife

2182
01:50:59,830 --> 01:50:56,520
a sister and her husband and these five

2183
01:51:04,189 --> 01:50:59,840
people had been in Manhattan celebrating

2184
01:51:06,470 --> 01:51:04,199
the younger man who is the abductee in

2185
01:51:09,770 --> 01:51:06,480
this uh not that he knew that at the

2186
01:51:12,370 --> 01:51:09,780
time but that's what this leads to they

2187
01:51:15,649 --> 01:51:12,380
had been celebrating his 32nd birthday

2188
01:51:20,030 --> 01:51:15,659
and he was doing very well very bright

2189
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:20,040
had started a lab to do water analysis

2190
01:51:25,669 --> 01:51:22,320
on the East Coast

2191
01:51:28,070 --> 01:51:25,679
and they all at the same time see a

2192
01:51:30,229 --> 01:51:28,080
pulsing red light in the night sky it

2193
01:51:33,229 --> 01:51:30,239
was about 2 A.M

2194
01:51:35,990 --> 01:51:33,239
and they are talking about what is that

2195
01:51:39,470 --> 01:51:36,000
red pulsing light

2196
01:51:41,450 --> 01:51:39,480
the father pulls over to the shoulder

2197
01:51:43,609 --> 01:51:41,460
off the freeway

2198
01:51:48,490 --> 01:51:43,619
and the

2199
01:51:53,570 --> 01:51:48,500
sun in the passengers seat leans forward

2200
01:52:00,950 --> 01:51:57,290
he is outside he is moving rapidly

2201
01:52:04,250 --> 01:52:00,960
whatever form he is in it's now looking

2202
01:52:05,510 --> 01:52:04,260
back he sees himself still at the

2203
01:52:08,570 --> 01:52:05,520
position of looking through the window

2204
01:52:10,729 --> 01:52:08,580
he sees his father he knows his mother

2205
01:52:13,850 --> 01:52:10,739
and his sister and her husband are in

2206
01:52:17,030 --> 01:52:13,860
the back seat but he's moving up and he

2207
01:52:20,689 --> 01:52:17,040
is in a form that seems to be able to

2208
01:52:24,830 --> 01:52:20,699
move to look to have 360 degree sight

2209
01:52:27,950 --> 01:52:24,840
and as he is then his attention wherever

2210
01:52:32,030 --> 01:52:27,960
his attention went it was then he was

2211
01:52:35,390 --> 01:52:32,040
aware of motion and then he comes up and

2212
01:52:38,510 --> 01:52:35,400
said it was just like I suddenly had a

2213
01:52:41,689 --> 01:52:38,520
relationship perspective with this big

2214
01:52:44,570 --> 01:52:41,699
huge donut that had red pulsing lights

2215
01:52:47,209 --> 01:52:44,580
in the middle of it underneath and I

2216
01:52:48,950 --> 01:52:47,219
come up for reasons he said I'm not in

2217
01:52:52,250 --> 01:52:48,960
control of what's happening I don't know

2218
01:52:55,189 --> 01:52:52,260
why I come over the top of the donut I

2219
01:52:58,010 --> 01:52:55,199
come down toward heard the red pulsing

2220
01:53:01,550 --> 01:52:58,020
lights I get to the red pulsing lights

2221
01:53:04,850 --> 01:53:01,560
and Linda the next thing I know

2222
01:53:07,310 --> 01:53:04,860
there is a he I can't remember if he

2223
01:53:09,709 --> 01:53:07,320
said there were 10 or 12 but they were a

2224
01:53:13,129 --> 01:53:09,719
type of gray with black slanted eyes

2225
01:53:16,370 --> 01:53:13,139
they were in a ring and in the form he

2226
01:53:19,370 --> 01:53:16,380
is out of body he is coming down right

2227
01:53:22,609 --> 01:53:19,380
into the middle of them and I saw the

2228
01:53:25,129 --> 01:53:22,619
hypnosis session that he did with this

2229
01:53:28,250 --> 01:53:25,139
uh it was a bud Hopkins never went

2230
01:53:31,010 --> 01:53:28,260
public he he never wanted anybody to

2231
01:53:34,310 --> 01:53:31,020
know who he was publicly and Bud and I

2232
01:53:36,709 --> 01:53:34,320
and others uh always respected that but

2233
01:53:40,250 --> 01:53:36,719
uh bud did a hypnosis session with him

2234
01:53:44,270 --> 01:53:40,260
and I got to see this scientists on a

2235
01:53:47,229 --> 01:53:44,280
sofa his legs he was pulling his legs up

2236
01:53:51,350 --> 01:53:47,239
on the sofa and kicking kicking out

2237
01:53:54,229 --> 01:53:51,360
saying I'm trying to stop he's trying to

2238
01:53:57,350 --> 01:53:54,239
stop his body from coming down into this

2239
01:53:59,209 --> 01:53:57,360
ring of the these beings that would be

2240
01:54:01,129 --> 01:53:59,219
like a typical kind of gray with the

2241
01:54:04,609 --> 01:54:01,139
black slanted eyes

2242
01:54:06,050 --> 01:54:04,619
and from that moment

2243
01:54:08,870 --> 01:54:06,060
for

2244
01:54:10,129 --> 01:54:08,880
what must have been in terms of Earth

2245
01:54:11,510 --> 01:54:10,139
time

2246
01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:11,520
hours

2247
01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:13,679
could have been seconds to the aliens

2248
01:54:18,590 --> 01:54:15,360
because we're all learning about how

2249
01:54:23,330 --> 01:54:18,600
they manipulate time sure and uh but

2250
01:54:29,689 --> 01:54:25,370
and what I'm coming to

2251
01:54:32,930 --> 01:54:29,699
is that he went into a description

2252
01:54:34,430 --> 01:54:32,940
of being oriented by these gray

2253
01:54:38,149 --> 01:54:34,440
scientists

2254
01:54:40,129 --> 01:54:38,159
about the truth of the universe that we

2255
01:54:43,189 --> 01:54:40,139
are actually in

2256
01:54:46,729 --> 01:54:43,199
and this is a paragraph

2257
01:54:49,070 --> 01:54:46,739
from an interview that I did with him

2258
01:54:51,709 --> 01:54:49,080
quote

2259
01:54:53,149 --> 01:54:51,719
our universe is paired

2260
01:54:54,950 --> 01:54:53,159
to another one

2261
01:54:58,490 --> 01:54:54,960
and they showed him

2262
01:55:00,709 --> 01:54:58,500
like when Betty Hill said that the the

2263
01:55:02,930 --> 01:55:00,719
black eyed gray took her over to what

2264
01:55:06,109 --> 01:55:02,940
looked like a hologram and there were

2265
01:55:08,689 --> 01:55:06,119
stars in there and he asked Betty which

2266
01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:08,699
one is your planet and she said I have

2267
01:55:13,070 --> 01:55:11,040
no idea and he said well if you don't

2268
01:55:16,310 --> 01:55:13,080
know where you are how would you expect

2269
01:55:19,790 --> 01:55:16,320
me to show you where we are now and that

2270
01:55:22,310 --> 01:55:19,800
it was a holographic projection of a

2271
01:55:25,250 --> 01:55:22,320
section of the universe that Betty Hill

2272
01:55:28,370 --> 01:55:25,260
talked with him okay now we're with the

2273
01:55:33,350 --> 01:55:28,380
scientists uh outside of New York

2274
01:55:36,290 --> 01:55:33,360
and he's in interacting and they show

2275
01:55:39,590 --> 01:55:36,300
him as he said three-dimensional

2276
01:55:41,750 --> 01:55:39,600
and and that he's looking at our

2277
01:55:44,330 --> 01:55:41,760
universe and then they showed that it

2278
01:55:46,510 --> 01:55:44,340
had a pair there was another universe

2279
01:55:49,430 --> 01:55:46,520
and that what humans didn't understand

2280
01:55:52,850 --> 01:55:49,440
is that this there isn't just one

2281
01:55:56,270 --> 01:55:52,860
Universe there are many universes our

2282
01:55:59,629 --> 01:55:56,280
universe is paired to another one they

2283
01:56:03,290 --> 01:55:59,639
go together two universes

2284
01:56:05,689 --> 01:56:03,300
which is completely opposite of this one

2285
01:56:08,629 --> 01:56:05,699
whatever that means

2286
01:56:11,030 --> 01:56:08,639
they're they're the skies in the one

2287
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:11,040
Universe are glowing white with dark

2288
01:56:18,890 --> 01:56:14,159
Suns colors are Indescribable and

2289
01:56:21,410 --> 01:56:18,900
iridescent and time flows to the Past

2290
01:56:25,310 --> 01:56:21,420
like a conveyor belt at the moment of

2291
01:56:28,490 --> 01:56:25,320
death in our universe we move through a

2292
01:56:30,649 --> 01:56:28,500
tunnel Into the Mirror Universe

2293
01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:30,659
where it is all light

2294
01:56:40,010 --> 01:56:34,800
and their time moves to the Past

2295
01:56:44,090 --> 01:56:40,020
and souls return back here wow our

2296
01:56:46,490 --> 01:56:44,100
universe wow close quote scientist East

2297
01:56:53,870 --> 01:56:51,109
strong that's strong I I love this I

2298
01:56:56,330 --> 01:56:53,880
would love to sit down in a huge

2299
01:56:58,209 --> 01:56:56,340
Conference of every extraterrestrial in

2300
01:57:02,810 --> 01:56:58,219
the Milky Way galaxy

2301
01:57:05,390 --> 01:57:02,820
have them show us the whole truth I want

2302
01:57:07,970 --> 01:57:05,400
to go backwards and uh I'm going to go

2303
01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:07,980
backwards with Linda next Friday night

2304
01:57:14,330 --> 01:57:11,280
she's arriving here in La uh we will be

2305
01:57:18,290 --> 01:57:14,340
preaching I'm going to present Linda

2306
01:57:20,089 --> 01:57:18,300
with uh the media Legend award at the

2307
01:57:22,870 --> 01:57:20,099
peripod festival that's going to go down

2308
01:57:26,450 --> 01:57:22,880
Saturday April 1st in Santa Clarita

2309
01:57:29,209 --> 01:57:26,460
Valencia same city the links for parapod

2310
01:57:31,970 --> 01:57:29,219
are below if you're in and around La and

2311
01:57:34,129 --> 01:57:31,980
you want to come out hang out with Linda

2312
01:57:37,129 --> 01:57:34,139
and I and crack uh some champagne with

2313
01:57:39,770 --> 01:57:37,139
this come on up uh to Valencia come on

2314
01:57:41,689 --> 01:57:39,780
down to Valencia the links are below and

2315
01:57:44,810 --> 01:57:41,699
uh come and hang out with us Linda thank

2316
01:57:47,570 --> 01:57:44,820
you so much well thank you this has been

2317
01:57:50,810 --> 01:57:47,580
fun and thanks to Tony sweet for

2318
01:57:52,970 --> 01:57:50,820
producing the parents Tony's Tony's

2319
01:57:56,629 --> 01:57:52,980
Tony's been a part of this community as

2320
01:57:58,729 --> 01:57:56,639
you know a very long time and uh he

2321
01:58:01,370 --> 01:57:58,739
really really fights the good fight and

2322
01:58:03,070 --> 01:58:01,380
uh he's just amazing yeah so thank you

2323
01:58:07,070 --> 01:58:03,080
Tony absolutely

2324
01:58:10,510 --> 01:58:07,080
I drop a hug to you to Tony to everybody

2325
01:58:15,890 --> 01:58:10,520
who's coming and it's in Santa Clarita

2326
01:58:18,589 --> 01:58:15,900
and go uh to uh the parapod website do

2327
01:58:21,290 --> 01:58:18,599
you have that I do I do still get

2328
01:58:22,550 --> 01:58:21,300
tickets yep yep yep yep yep the links

2329
01:58:25,129 --> 01:58:22,560
are below we've got them throughout

2330
01:58:27,350 --> 01:58:25,139
social media all right uh Linda's got it

2331
01:58:31,430 --> 01:58:27,360
up so uh just come and hang out with us

2332
01:58:33,649 --> 01:58:31,440
again Linda I can't believe 81 trips

2333
01:58:37,370 --> 01:58:33,659
around the Sun we're about to celebrate

2334
01:58:39,950 --> 01:58:37,380
82. this is just incredible to me I love

2335
01:58:42,589 --> 01:58:39,960
500 more every

2336
01:58:44,410 --> 01:58:42,599
ET there is your energy is just

2337
01:58:47,209 --> 01:58:44,420
infectious

2338
01:58:50,149 --> 01:58:47,219
just safe travels I'll see you in about

2339
01:58:52,129 --> 01:58:50,159
a week uh right here in Los Angeles

2340
01:58:55,430 --> 01:58:52,139
thank you so much Linda behave and be

2341
01:58:58,010 --> 01:58:55,440
well and congratulations thank you agape

2342
01:59:01,129 --> 01:58:58,020
love to you and to everyone the very

2343
01:59:03,169 --> 01:59:01,139
best Linda Moulton Howe now

2344
01:59:07,729 --> 01:59:03,179
um and thank you that was straight two

2345
01:59:10,250 --> 01:59:07,739
hours live and no commercials that's how

2346
01:59:12,290 --> 01:59:10,260
I like to do it with Linda come and hang

2347
01:59:15,530 --> 01:59:12,300
out with us next Friday right here in

2348
01:59:17,689 --> 01:59:15,540
Los Angeles and uh that's it I want

2349
01:59:19,729 --> 01:59:17,699
everybody to have a great safe fun and

2350
01:59:21,950 --> 01:59:19,739
amazing weekend

2351
01:59:25,010 --> 01:59:21,960
um I'm going to do just that and I just

2352
01:59:28,510 --> 01:59:25,020
kicked off my weekend with Linda Moulton

2353
01:59:31,310 --> 01:59:28,520
Howe doesn't get any better than that

2354
01:59:36,109 --> 01:59:31,320
earthfiles.com is the website

2355
01:59:38,149 --> 01:59:36,119
that's where I get all of my information

2356
01:59:40,189 --> 01:59:38,159
Fade to Black is produced by Hill J Palm

2357
01:59:41,870 --> 01:59:40,199
Renee Dennis and Kevin webmaster is

2358
01:59:45,890 --> 01:59:41,880
through the geek music Doug Aldridge

2359
01:59:47,810 --> 01:59:45,900
intro space boys spaceboymusic.com fade

2360
01:59:49,250 --> 01:59:47,820
to black who's produced by kjcr for the

2361
01:59:53,330 --> 01:59:49,260
game changer Network and this broadcast

2362
01:59:55,129 --> 01:59:53,340
is owned and copyrighted 2023 by Fade to

2363
01:59:57,229 --> 01:59:55,139
Black and The Game Changer Network Inc

2364
01:59:58,550 --> 01:59:57,239
it could not be rebroadcast downloaded

2365
02:00:00,530 --> 01:59:58,560
copied or used anywhere in the known

2366
02:00:01,910 --> 02:00:00,540
universe without rent permission from

2367
02:00:03,830 --> 02:00:01,920
Fade to Black of the game changer

2368
02:00:07,609 --> 02:00:03,840
Network I'm Yours Jimmy Church everybody

2369
02:00:19,380 --> 02:00:07,619
have a great safe fun amazing weekend go

2370
02:00:42,550 --> 02:00:22,570
[Music]

2371
02:00:45,109 --> 02:00:42,560
yes